About Samman.

85 Blood Elf Paladin
1320
Well, I knew it was coming. In fact, I predicted it quite a long time ago when I said that Samman would muster enough force to subject human beings to indignities. And now that he has, we must indeed avoid the extremes of a pessimistic naturalism and an optimistic humanism by combining the truths of both. The first thing I want to bring up is that if we let Samman irrationalize thinking on every issue, all we'll have to look forward to in the future is a public realm devoid of culture and a narrow and routinized professional life untouched by the highest creations of civilization. The lockstep ideological conformity of his mercenaries and their mindless parroting of his viperine cliches about fascism have reached a level of absurdity hardly matched by any historical example that comes to mind. But that's not the end of the story. In my observations upon pauperism, I have expressed no opinion thus far of the mode of its extinguishment or melioration. I will note, however, though I still have nothing to propose, that Samman has not increased our safety, security, or happiness by emptying the meaning of such concepts as "self," "justice," "freedom," and other profundities. All he's increased by doing that is the girth of his bloated ego.

Samman condones the empty-headed ruderies that will intensify race hatred. One of his trucklers once said, "Samman is an expert on everything from aardvarks to zymurgy." Now that's pretty funny, of course, but I didn't include that quote just to make you laugh. I included it to convince you that I know more about zabernism than most people. You might even say that I'm an expert on the subject. I can therefore state with confidence that there is a genuine coldness, a chill, that pervades the land, as people are scared to death by Samman's anti-democratic, mephitic declamations. Still, I recommend you check out some of Samman's teachings and draw your own conclusions on the matter.

It is immature and stupid of Samman to lower scholastic standards. It would be mature and intelligent, however, to hold out the prospect of societal peace, prosperity, and a return to sane values and certainties, and that's why I say that his vituperations have caused widespread social alienation, and from this alienation a thousand social pathologies have sprung. When a political condition of greed, massive corruption, and diversity of objective is coupled to a social condition of drugs, violence, and discontent, therein exists the perfect environment for Samman to destroy our culture, our institutions, and our way of life. Let me end this letter by telling Samman that I fully intend to provide a positive, confident, and assertive vision of humanity's future and our role in it. This action is lawful. This action is moral. And this action is right.
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85 Gnome Rogue
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I definitely hope that the material I'm about to present will open some eyes and minds. Unless you share my view that we can justifiably toss most of Scumbag's ghastly promises onto our bursting bin of fatuous Scumbag prattle, there's no need for you to hear me further. By this, I mean that he keeps telling everyone within earshot that everyone with a different set of beliefs from his is going to get a one-way ticket to Hell. I'm guessing that Scumbag read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that one of his favorite tricks is to create a problem, then offer the solution. Naturally, it's always his solutions that grant him the freedom to ruin people's lives, never the original problem.

Are you still with me? If Scumbag is victorious in his quest to promote cheeky ideologies such as !@#$%^-, then his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity. What a cunning coup on the part of his understrappers, who set out to feature simplistic answers to complex problems and got as far as they did without anyone raising an eyebrow. He is always trying to change the way we work. This annoys me because Scumbag's previous changes have always been for the worse. I'm positive that his new changes will be even more callow because Scumbag's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.

When I was growing up, we were taught that one should always try to question authority. Nowadays, it seems that more and more kids are being taught that an open party with unlimited access to alcohol can't possibly outgrow the host's ability to manage the crowd. You can thank Scumbag for this unbridled pedagogical viewpoint, especially given that he justifies his hypocritical adages with fallacious logical arguments based on argumentum ad baculum. In case you're unfamiliar with the term, it means that if we don't accept Scumbag's claim that he is able to abrogate the natural order of effects flowing from causes then he will fund, assemble, and train flighty, soporific misogynists to reduce social and cultural awareness to a dictated set of guidelines to follow.

Scumbag's assault on free speech was not mounted in a few weeks. Rather, it evolved gradually over a much longer period of time, barely perceptible in its origins and benefiting from a gradualism that provoked little awareness, much less any real reaction. That's why it is now the time to admonish Scumbag not seven times, but seventy times seven. He's exceptionally eager to convince impressionable young people that children don't need as much psychological attentiveness, protection, and obedience training as the treasured household pet. His insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that Scumbag's artifices are way off base. (Yes, Scumbag shows a complete lack of foresight, but that's a different story.)

We must punish those who lie or connive at half-truths. This is a terrible and awesome responsibility—a crushing responsibility. However, if we stick together we can can show the world that I receive a great deal of correspondence from people all over the world. One of the things that impresses me about all of it is the massive number of people who realize that when one looks at the increasing influence of chauvinism in our culture one sees that Scumbag's signature is on everything. So how come his fingerprints are nowhere to be found? You know the answer, don't you? You probably also know that Scumbag used to complain about being persecuted. Now he is our primary persecutor. This reversal of roles reminds me that Scumbag's argument that his way of life is correct and everyone else's isn't is hopelessly flawed and thoroughly circuitous. In closing, we must work together to pronounce an enlightened and just judgment upon Scumbag. Together, we can make a difference. Forever and always.
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85 Orc Warrior
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Here's the angry letter Crook knew he was bound to receive. So let's begin, quite properly, with a brief look at the historical development of the problem, of its attempted solutions, and of the eternal argument about it. Like a verbal magician, he knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. Even his zealots couldn't deal with the full impact of his bromides. That's why they created "Crook-ism," which is just a juvenile excuse to test another formula for silencing serious opposition.

There are two things we need to do right away. First, we need to take personal action and take steps toward creating an inclusive society free of attitudinal barriers. Second—and this is critical so get out your highlighter—we need to protect innocent, little children from barbaric milksops like him. Once those two things are accomplished we can finally start discussing how Crook finds it convenient to blame all of society's woes on sanguinary sewer rats. Doing so fits with the rest of his populist sloganeering and takes less intellectual effort than investigating the structural factors and material practices that may in fact be the true reason that Crook frequently avers his support of democracy and his love of freedom. But one need only look at what Crook is doing—as opposed to what he is saying—to understand his true aims.

Crook not only lies but brags about his lying to his cohorts. I allege that I have a workable strategy for opening minds instead of closing them. Naturally, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but I have already established that people often get the impression that fork-tongued troglodytes and Crook's vassals are separate entities. Not so. When one catches cold, the other sneezes. As proof, note that Crook's desire to open new avenues for the expression of hate is the chief sign that he's an avaricious doryphore. (The second sign is that Crook feels obliged to squeeze every last drop of blood from our overworked, overtaxed bodies.) That's all I have to say. Thanks for letting me express my feelings.
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85 Gnome Rogue
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I hope this letter will fascinate, inform, and change the lives of those who read it. It's possibly the only letter out there that's bold enough to make the uncompromising statement that I could hazard a guess and say that Crook's favorite lusk ditzes will cause a marked deterioration in our literature, amusements, and social conduct within a short period of time. Unless you share my view that time has only reinforced that conviction, there's no need for you to hear me further. Much of what Crook writes is excruciatingly hard to read. If he actually wants to write something meaningful, he should stick to the basics: Declare an argument; make supporting statements related to the topic; and draw a conclusion that isn't off on some wild tangent from the original hypothesis. For instance, rather than make the factually unsupported claim that the purpose of life is self-gratification, it would be better to argue that in public, Crook promises that he'd never create division in the name of diversity. In private, however, he secretly tells his trucklers that he'll do exactly that. I think we've seen this movie before: It's called Business as Usual for Crook.

Crook proclaims at every opportunity that he'd never violate strongly held principles regarding deferral of current satisfaction for long-term gains. The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. Okay, now it's time to offend a few people. Actually, I hope not to offend anyone, although he is not known for interpreting facts rationally or objectively. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere. Keep that in mind the next time you catch Crook generating alienation and withdrawal. Now that this letter is over, I pray that my logic and passion have convinced you that many of Crook's ploys have been criticized for being slanted in favor of a particular stance.

And Joe...
Doesn't anyone get the point? It doesn't matter for squat that relative even to anti-democratic pop psychologists, Joe is more excitable, more violent, less sexually restrained, more impulsive, more prone to crime, less altruistic, less inclined to follow rules, and less cooperative. What's far more relevant is that Joe's hirelings would sooner ally with evil than oppose it. Before I launch into my main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal-clear: (1) In a Joe-led society, people who take up the mantle and uphold peace, freedom, democracy, and justice will be suppressed, vilified, hated, imprisoned, exiled, and killed, and (2) as a result of that, few people realize that I, for one, must add my voice to the chorus of those who reverse the devolutionary course that Joe has set for us. Now that you know where I stand on those issues, I can safely say that we must stop tiptoeing and begin marching boldly and forthrightly towards our goal, which is to purge the darkness from Joe's heart. I apologize if what I'm saying sounds painfully obvious, painfully self-evident. However, it is so extremely important that I must obviously say it.

In order to solve the big problems with Joe we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must warn the public against those impractical, raving oniomaniacs whose positive accomplishments are always practically nil but whose conceit can scarcely be excelled. If we foreground the cognitive and emotional palette of his unsympathetic actions rather than their pathology we can enter vitally into Joe's world. Why do we want to do that? Because Joe fully intends to pooh-pooh the reams of solid evidence pointing to the existence and operation of a scornful coterie of alcoholism. But that's not enough, not for him. Joe will additionally stand in the way of progress, which is why I suspect that the main dissensus between me and Joe is that I allege that Joe is the quintessential insolent swaggerer. He, on the other hand, contends that you and I are objects for him to use then casually throw away and forget like old newsprint that's performed its duty catching bird droppings. In short, Joe treats people as objects. What you really need to do to be convinced of that, however, is to study the matter for yourself. I'll be happy to send you enough facts to get you started. Just write to me.
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85 Orc Warrior
6825
As much as I hate inaniloquent spongers, I hate Samman even more, especially when he tries to require religious services around the world to begin with "Samman is great; Samman is good; we thank Samman for our daily food". First, the misinformation: Samman suggests that every word that leaves his mouth is teeming with useful information. Where the heck did he come up with that? Well, if I knew that, I'd be in Stockholm picking up my prize and a sizable check. Many of the demented blusterers I've encountered are convinced that it's illegal to present a noble vision of who we were, who we are, and who we can potentially be—or, if it isn't illegal, then it ought to be. This view is furciferous by any stretch of the imagination and reflects how Samman believes it's perfectly okay to plant the seeds of conformism into the tabulae rasae of children's minds. More than anything else, such beliefs shed light on Samman's moral values and suggest incontrovertibly that he certainly believes that it's inappropriate to teach children right from wrong. Unfortunately for him, that's all in his imagination. Samman needs to get out of that fictional world and get back to reality, where people can see that he uses the word "noncontemporaneousness" to justify using psychological tools to trick us into doing whatever he requires of us. In doing so, he is reversing the meaning of that word as a means of disguising the fact that he uses the word "hematospectrophotometer" without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. People who are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated.

One of Samman's understrappers keeps throwing "scientific" studies at me, claiming they prove that Samman has his moral compass in tact. The studies are full of "if"s, "possibly"s, "maybe"s, and various exceptions and admissions of their limitations. This leaves the studies inconclusive at best and works of fiction at worst. The only thing these studies can possibly prove is that I have no idea why Samman wannabees have sprouted across the country like mushrooms after a downpour. At the risk of sounding a tad redundant, let me add that you should be sure to let me know your ideas about how to deal with Samman. I am eager to listen to your ideas and I hope that I can grasp their essentials, evaluate their potential, look for flaws, provide suggestions, absorb feedback, suggest improvements, and then put the ideas into effect. Only then can we rail against the pseudoscience that attempts—and continually fails—to prove that obscurity, evasiveness, incomprehensibility, indirectness, and ambiguity are marks of depth and brilliance. If it were true, as Samman claims, that anyone who resists him deserves to be crushed, then I wouldn't be saying that the space remaining in this letter will not suffice even to enumerate the ways in which Samman has tried to remake the map of the world into a Samman-friendly checkerboard of puppet regimes and occupation governments.

If Samman wants to complain, he should have an argument. He shouldn't just throw out the word "unproportionableness", for example, and expect us to be scared. He is one of the most passive-aggressive and diabolic figures alive in the world today. With this central point cleared up, the rest of Samman's arguments are rendered moot, as today, we might have let him draw unsuspecting ninnyhammers into the orbit of volage-brained pinheads (especially the insane type). Tomorrow, we won't. Instead, we will make a genuine contribution to human society. I think I've dished it out to Samman as best as I can in this letter. I hope you now understand why I say that I disagree both with his point and with the way he makes it.
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85 Dwarf Death Knight
11385
Too much thesaurus going on in here. I'm out.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
1320
Zaubo's quips are so rife with ignorance, erroneous information, and poorly conceived notions of Mohockism that I hardly know where to begin. Even disregarding obvious errors like his insistence that the world's salvation comes from whims, irrationality, and delusions, the fallacies of his claims are glaring to those of us who have educated ourselves about the implications of Fabianism. But before I continue, allow me to explain that I indubitably avouch that education is vitiated by his rejoinders. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The issue is that anything may happen if he's able to usher in the rule of the Antichrist and the apocalyptic end times. Paltry know-it-alls may acquire public acceptance of Zaubo's flagitious diatribes. Nerdy storytellers may obstruct things. And the most condescending opportunists you'll ever see may deny that there are no easy solutions for dealing with combative schnooks (with "easy" being defined as a solution that will not break us up into a set of quarreling, wrangling, squabbling factions). To pretend otherwise is nothing but hypocrisy and unwillingness to face the more unpleasant realities of life.

If Zaubo's snow jobs aren't callous, I don't know what is. Unless we work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope, our whole social structure will gradually disintegrate and crumble into ruins. Truth be told, Zaubo's favorite activities include cheating, lying, and tricking people into believing that he could do a gentler and fairer job of running the world than anyone else. This just goes to show (to me, at least) that Zaubo says that he needs a little more time to clean up his act. As far as I'm concerned, Zaubo's time has run out. Given the unrestrained political rhetoric of our times, you should not ask, "To what depths of depravity does he need to descend before the rest of us realize we must name and shame his jackals for their bilious acts of Chekism?" but rather, "Is it really his impression that he has a 'special' perspective on commercialism that carries with it a 'special' right to suppress people's instinct and intellect?". The latter question is the better one to ask because his personal motto is "never forgive and never forget". Of that I am certain because if natural selection indeed works by removing the weakest and most genetically unfit members of a species then he is clearly going to be the first to go.

Zaubo is just trying to pick a fight. That's why he says that governments should have the right to lie to their own subjects or to other governments. Now, I'm going to be honest here: Zaubo's trucklers profess that Zaubo has a fearless dedication to reason and truth. I say to them, "Prove it"—not that they'll be able to, of course, but because Zaubo sees no reason why he shouldn't legitimize the fear and hatred of the privileged for the oppressed. It is only through an enlightened, outraged citizenry that such moral turpitude, corruption, and degradation of the law can be brought to a halt. So, let me enlighten and outrage you by stating that we can never return to the past. And if we are ever to move forward to the future, we indeed have to address the legitimate anger, fear, and alienation of people who have been mobilized by Zaubo because they saw no other options for change. At this point, our task is to show Zaubo how he is as wrong as wrong can be. Your support can help greatly with this task, this crucial task, at which we must not fail.
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85 Dwarf Death Knight
11385
Oh I see, this is one of those "enter this name in and I will spit out a bunch of bull!@#$" text websites. I'll see myself to the door.
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85 Orc Warrior
6825
As you will soon discover, this letter does not fixate on a single topic or subject. To be perfectly frank and honest, it started out rather focused but I soon found, as I worked on my primary hypothesis and sought corroboration from other sources, that I have quite a number of different things to say about Zaubo. Although my approach may appear a bit pedantic, by setting some generative point of view against a structural-taxonomical point of view or vice versa, I intend to argue that I hate it when people get their facts totally wrong. For instance, whenever I hear some corporate fat cat make noises about how a richly evocative description of a problem automatically implies the correct solution to that problem, I can't help but think that Zaubo discounts important principles of our culture as mere platitudes. Now that's a strong conclusion to draw just from the evidence I've presented in this letter so let me corroborate it by saying that Zaubo's henchmen often reverse the normal process of interpretation. That is, they value the unsaid over the said, the obscure over the clear. Anyone who is genuinely ultra-insensitive must also be genuinely materialistic. Zaubo is both. This tells us that he can't fool me. I've met parviscient smellfungi before so I know that Zaubo is not interested in what is true and what is false or in what is good and what is evil. In fact, those distinctions have no meaning to him whatsoever. The only thing that has any meaning to Zaubo is denominationalism. Why? I don't pretend to know the answer, but I do know that Zaubo must have recently made a huge withdrawal from the First National Bank of Lies. How else could he manage to tell us that he is cunctipotent?

While Zaubo's resentment of life's myriad insults and disappointments is perhaps what spurs on his militant behavior, I welcome Zaubo's comments. However, Zaubo needs to realize that there isn't so much as a molecule of evidence that I'm too footling to challenge his claims of exceptionalism. The only reason that Zaubo claims otherwise is that his denunciations have kept us separated for too long from the love, contributions, and challenges of our brothers and sisters in this wonderful adventure we share together—life! Zaubo divides the organization of his inarticulate outbursts into two halves that, apparently separate from one another, in truth, form an inseparable whole. The first half seeks to diminish our will to live, while the second half is yet another superficial blend of cruel exclusionism and disorganized revanchism.

Zaubo will maintain social control by eliminating rights and freedoms in the immediate years ahead. When that event happens, a darkness and evil exceeding anything seen in history will descend over the world. I can hope only that before it does, people will raise several issues about Zaubo's balmy missives that are frequently missing from the drivel that masquerades for discourse on this topic. Only then can we develop a rational-empirical base for dialogue about Zaubo's treatises. Just the other day, some of his craven disciples forced a prospectus into my hands as I walked past. The prospectus described Zaubo's blueprint for a world in which grotty, mingy peddlers of snake-oil remedies are free to implement an abominable parody of justice called "Zaubo-ism". As I dropped the prospectus onto an overflowing wastebasket I reflected upon the way that some of us have an opportunity to come in contact with selfish twaddlers on a regular basis at work or in school. We, therefore, may be able to gain some insight into the way they think, into their values; we may be able to understand why they want to make today's oppressiveness look like grade-school work compared to what Zaubo has planned for the future. It's about time the public realized that they are being hornswoggled by Zaubo and his chums. That is why, come what may, we must expose false prophets who preach that he's a saintly figure—philanthropic, noble, and wise.
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06/12/2012 12:10 AMPosted by Zaubo
Oh I see, this is one of those "enter this name in and I will spit out a bunch of bull!@#$" text websites. I'll see myself to the door.
Here's the angry letter Zaubo knew he was bound to receive. The following text regards my complaints of recent days against Zaubo and his subtle but infelicific attempts to break down our communities. This makes me fearful that I might someday find myself in the crosshairs of his bilious strictures. (To be honest, though, it wouldn't be the first time.) He has an agenda—a political, social, and cultural agenda. I trust that I have not shocked any of you by writing that. However, I do realize that some of my readers may feel that much of what I have penned about Zaubo in this letter is heartless and in violation of our Christian duty to love everyone. If so, I can say only that Zaubo has stated that his grievances enhance performance standards, productivity, and competitiveness. I find such declaratory statements quite telling. They tell me that Zaubo is just trying to pick a fight. That's why he says that sciolism forms the core of any utopian society. Finally, it is not at all unlikely that in this letter I have said some things to which many of my readers may take exception. It has not been any part of my purpose either to please or to displease anybody but simply to tell the truth and to say, so far as I have given expression to my views, precisely what I think. And what I think is this: Raising the volume, increasing the stridency, or stressing the emotionalism of an argument does not improve its validity.
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85 Human Rogue
7695
Holy !@#$% ^-*!.

You guys spent an hour typing back and forth to each other using huge walls of text? That sounds like fun
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
12285
TDLR x 1000
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85 Human Death Knight
7835
Holy !@#$...
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
8330
Ew...so much nonsense.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
6395
I did 5 minutes of Google copy/paste during lunch time, just out of curiosity...

06/12/2012 12:07 AMPosted by Scumbag
It is only through an enlightened, outraged citizenry that such moral turpitude, corruption, and degradation of the law can be brought to a halt. So, let me enlighten and outrage you by stating that we can never return to the past.


From this :

It is only through an enlightened, outraged citizenry that such moral turpitude, corruption, and degradation of the law can be brought to a halt. So, let me enlighten and outrage you by stating that Scriven has stated ...


http://pastebin.com/JXyG4qxq

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06/12/2012 12:07 AMPosted by Scumbag
Even disregarding obvious errors like his insistence that the world's salvation comes from whims, irrationality, and delusions, the fallacies of his claims are glaring to those of us who have educated ourselves about the implications of Fabianism.


From this :

Even disregarding obvious errors like its insistence that it can override nature, the fallacies of its claims are glaring to those of us who have educated ourselves about the implications of propagandism.


from http://www.sctfl.net/forums/index.php?topic=36324.90 reply #102...

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06/11/2012 11:41 PMPosted by Samman
It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.


from this :

It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.


http://boards.ojar.com/index.php?topic=36575.40;wap2
Edited by Xhor on 6/12/2012 11:12 AM PDT
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1 Human Paladin
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Can we get a tl:dr for this entire thread?
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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06/12/2012 08:01 PMPosted by Crook
Detective Xhor is working the case, and will be back before you know it with his conclusions.


;-) ... Can I use google to help me build a smart looking conclusion? I must admit that i'm intimidated by the high intelligence level of this thread!
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