Topic [H] 25m 2/6HM Emergence US #64 LFM
Zkrillex
Undermine
Zkrillex
85 Blood Elf Rogue
9825
09/05/2012 02:24 PMPosted by Ripiysdexia
Sorry but I'm returning to Undermine to reform Get Carried. Don't get your hopes up for server firsts.


How's high school glee club going kid? Did your group make nationals?
Snøøkì
Wyrmrest Accord
Snøøkì
90 Orc Rogue
9145
How's high school "we-transferred-to-a-server-and-called-them-all-bad-for-realm-firsts-but-we-actually-wont-get-any" club?
Siiv
Proudmoore
Siiv
85 Human Priest
9580
Another guild that thinks Undermine can support a competitive 25m. Emergence will get fed up from mediocre progression and transfer within 6 months.....just like all the other guilds with high hopes.
Mercone
Undermine
Mercone
90 Pandaren Rogue
5970
Nope, we are actually quite stable and enjoying the ride. We are not planning on transferring and since a majority of our recruits are from off-server, we don't need to rely on Undermine to provide mediocre talent.
Frostfallen
Undermine
Frostfallen
90 Troll Mage
13580
09/07/2012 02:16 PMPosted by Mercone
Nope, we are actually quite stable and enjoying the ride.


I sure hope you're enjoying the ride, but as a 25 man guild you only started killing H madness within the last few months of Cata and at that your members were already geared. Starting off from scratch in MoP and aiming for a goal such as yours ( top 100 ). I gotta say.. you guys make it sound like its so incredibly easy. You're not the only guild out there wanting to achieve this goal. What makes Emergence so much different than all of the current top 100 guilds? It must be in the water! :o
Gámon
Undermine
Gámon
85 Tauren Warrior
7525
09/07/2012 03:32 PMPosted by Frostfallen
It must be in the water!


Or maybe they're getting unholy assistance?
SCOURGE assistance mayhaps?
Gámon
Undermine
Gámon
85 Tauren Warrior
7525
inb4 "We're all Undead abominations of the Lich King's Scourge"


fixed
Mercone
Undermine
Mercone
90 Pandaren Rogue
5970
09/07/2012 03:32 PMPosted by Frostfallen
Nope, we are actually quite stable and enjoying the ride.


I sure hope you're enjoying the ride, but as a 25 man guild you only started killing H madness within the last few months of Cata and at that your members were already geared. Starting off from scratch in MoP and aiming for a goal such as yours ( top 100 ). I gotta say.. you guys make it sound like its so incredibly easy. You're not the only guild out there wanting to achieve this goal. What makes Emergence so much different than all of the current top 100 guilds? It must be in the water! :o


Yes, we only started killing H Madness a few months ago, which is why we have not and will not make comparisons between our guild and any other guild that downed madness before us.

However, when we formed Emergence as a 25 man guild, we were not geared. In fact, 18 of our original 25 all had gear below 390 ilvl. The founders and a lot of our original recruits just came back to the game. This is why we didn't start ranking players until the last several weeks of DS (before the rankings freeze). We had to get our gear caught up to all the other guilds that were already parsing players. We ended the tier with having 5 different dps parse and 2 healers. Having only 7 players hit the top 200 in their respected class is below our standards and we look forward to parsing a lot more members in MoP when we can start at the same time as other progression guilds.

Our goal upon forming the guild was to get back into the top 100 as many of the leaders are from previous top 100 US guilds. As a result we know how those guilds were run, organized, and executed. We bring this philosophy to Emergence and push our raiders VERY hard to be the best. We have actually pushed multiple players too hard and as a result they left the guild. But it allowed us to find out who can handle hardcore raiding / hardcore expectations and who couldn't.

We understand that we have not yet earned any recognition other than being the only surviving 25m guild on the server. Actions speak louder than words, we are being patient... 17 days till MoP release and 24 days till raids are available.
Ripiysdexia
Zul'jin
Ripiysdexia
85 Orc Death Knight
TM
1545
You guys had a 25 or 30% nerf when you killed madness; gear wasn't an issue because the fight became so under-tuned.

Inexperience isn't really an excuse because it takes about 1 attempt to figure out what you are supposed to do. The only excuse I could really understand is coming back after a long break, but it's really easy to get back in the swing of things after about a week.

I have more than 7 parses alone as one spec, and not some bad 100+ rank, I'm talking top 10. Granted I'm better than a top 100 player, it would make sense that a top 100 player could at least get a ranking higher than 100, and more than on just one fight. Your roster doesn't look like a top 100 roster.

You don't need to push people, you just need to recruit good people, like Gellea. He may have not been the best from Get Carried, but that's the caliber of player you want for a top 100 guild.

I'm still waiting to see what the self-proclaimed best rogue in the world can do (that's Zkrillex for those that don't know). You guys seem to run your mouths a lot without being able to back up what you say.
Tropicanna
Undermine
Tropicanna
90 Human Mage
11455
09/08/2012 11:28 PMPosted by Ripiysdexia
He may have not been the best from Get Carried,


i was the best
Thanks.
Zkrillex
Undermine
Zkrillex
85 Blood Elf Rogue
9825
I'm still waiting to see what the self-proclaimed best WoW player in the world can do (that's Zkrillex for those that don't know).


Fixed. Back to Sunday Night Football. Which btw, I am also the best football player and fantasy football player in the world too. Thanks.
Xanaxer
Undermine
Xanaxer
90 Pandaren Shaman
10440
Edited by Xanaxer on 9/10/12 6:12 AM (PDT)
We ended the tier with having 5 different dps parse and 2 healers. Having only 7 players hit the top 200 in their respected class is below our standards and we look forward to parsing a lot more members in MoP when we can start at the same time as other progression guilds.

What does parsing have to do at all with progression? Do you compare yourself to Lysdexia and his parses in heroic ds with them getting realm first 8/8? In order for him to parse like that it wasnt until AFTER heroic DS was down. Parsing is just something fun to go for outside of progressing. IMO. But good luck in Mists, I look forward to the competition.

*Sorry for the messed up quote, browser wouldnt correctly put up the quote box so f it.
Ripiysdexia
Zul'jin
Ripiysdexia
85 Orc Death Knight
TM
1545
Ranking is a pretty good indicator of a player's skill and capabilities. Granted many talented players are not given opportunities to rank, it's still a better indicator of player skill than number of boss kills or date of boss kill.
Xanaxer
Undermine
Xanaxer
90 Pandaren Shaman
10440
09/10/2012 10:42 AMPosted by Ripiysdexia
Ranking is a pretty good indicator of a player's skill and capabilities. Granted many talented players are not given opportunities to rank, it's still a better indicator of player skill than number of boss kills or date of boss kill.


I agree with this, but like he said many people arent given the opportunities to rank. Take heroic madness. I'm assuming that part of Lys number 1 ranks (in both frost and unholy) were because he was the only one to kill the regenerative bloods. Also assuming you killed green>yellow>red>blue. My point was just that this wouldnt be the case during a progression fight. Same with Zon'ozz, you can stretch that fight out til the zerk timer and have one guy dps him until the end. Granted Lysdexia and Mirdean were still able to rank on heroic fights during progression. Mirdean got skillz.
Vidas
Undermine
Vidas
90 Human Warrior
8230
Honestly

I'm the best

Carry on
Siiv
Proudmoore
Siiv
85 Human Priest
9580
09/07/2012 02:16 PMPosted by Mercone
Nope, we are actually quite stable and enjoying the ride. We are not planning on transferring and since a majority of our recruits are from off-server, we don't need to rely on Undermine to provide mediocre talent.


You expect people to server transfer to a guild that is ranked 7133? Stop kidding yourself. You will be forced to recruit through undermine.
Pajaro
Mal'Ganis
Pajaro
90 Orc Death Knight
14170
If Legends couldn't get people to transfer here, Emergence sure won't.
Veloth
Undermine
Veloth
90 Undead Mage
17485
09/11/2012 08:54 AMPosted by Pajaro
If Legends couldn't get people to transfer here, Emergence sure won't.


If I'm not mistaken, Legends would only accept transfers if they could speak French.

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