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Would be nice if we could down rate such players, such said players would down rate others rapid fire.
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#221
7/18/2012
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Edited by Dancingnome on 7/18/12 2:03 PM (PDT)
The solution here is to make the game overall/heroics/raids easier. They are apparently too hard as they are now since they cause so much conflict amongst players. If they were easier and wipes etc. rarely happened, / DPS / Healing /tanking 'skills' that the player requires were lowered, & negative consequences only happened if players were/are completely messing up - then these conflicts between players wouldn't happen.
For PVP you can't really make the game easier, so conflicts will always come about (because the nature of player vs player is there is a loser and winner). But maybe Blizzard can alleviate tensions between players in PVP by rewarding losers more. Still less than the winners, but more for participating in PVP. This is a game, its supposed to be fun. It isn't supposed to cause so much conflict between players. |
#222
7/18/2012
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The game does not cause conflict between players. Player attitudes do that. Nothing in the game makes a player be abusive to another player. |
#223
7/18/2012
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Edited by Dancingnome on 7/18/12 2:18 PM (PDT)
This is a game, its supposed to be fun. It isn't supposed to cause so much conflict between players. If the game is so difficult that people are constantly wiping, losing, getting frustrated it's a little bit too hard. Being abusive is never right, but the game may cause some to tip into becoming that way by the causing them to become stressed & frustrated. The game is supposed to be entertaining, not 'work' etc. |
#224
7/18/2012
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Ok, apparently I'm not done with this just yet, lol :)
Allow me all to tell you a story of a nice young 12 year old who, until recently, played in my guild. When we first brought him in, we realized he was a little eccentric and quirky, however this never effected my opinion of him. Just an overall good kid. Unfortunately, my friend did not accept this kid into our circle, and began to ignore him. This was fine by me because hey, I get it, you don't want to deal with a kid. What broke the camals back, so to speak, was that my friend was friends with a good pvp player on the horde side of our server (arguably one of the best). My friend went out of his/her way to organize a camping of this young kid who wasn't as good. It didn't stop there, because they would take screen shots of the campings and post them of a Facebook page, where he was mocked by several people. It was only until the young 12 year old spoke to our GM was anything done. The player was promptly removed from our guild for breaking our primere rule; respect your guildies. However, the damage had been done, and the young 12 year old left our server. I don't care if it was a 12 year old or a 21 year old. To purposely mess with a player and go so far as to harass a person out of game is cruel. Please, stop claiming the Internet isn't "sunshine and rainbows". It is what it is because anonymity made it so. Please, whether you support me or not, take what I say to heart. Make the game, and the Internet, a better place. It's not a computer, it's a person. Thank you :) |
#225
7/18/2012
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http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/harassment
Can't believe I've only watched this today. |
#226
7/18/2012
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAno Congratulations, you're a masochist. |
#227
7/18/2012
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Edited by Munchie on 7/18/12 2:48 PM (PDT)
Just /ignore and move on. Really? "Your dps is low, you kinda suck" is harassment by those terms? Except it isn't. It isn't the nicest thing to say, but you don't know what context it was taken from or why it was said. People bicker, even in real life. You don't run to the police because random dude over there said something mean to you. No, you'd go to the police to report a threat, however. Maybe it isn't as black and white as you make it out to be. There is NO reason to tell people to kill themselves. That type of behavior should not be tolerated. I am all for trying to make the internet a better place, and I am 100% against anyone telling someone to go kill themselves. I try to be kind every chance I get. However, there are also a ton of people going to extremes and overreacting in this thread. |
#228
7/18/2012
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Ashtón, thank you for posting your thoughts about how to increase positivity in a community driven environment. There are indeed countless ways to be far more constructive when responding to other players and your highlighted example is fantastic (though I had to remove the inappropriate language).
When you boil it down, we’re all the same. Who sits in front of the keyboard doesn’t matter; you have the same passion as the next player: You love to play World of Warcraft! Scrub away the frivolous things and you now have a foundation for a mindset that will assuredly promote and foster a fun, interactive, and positive gaming experience. We were all beginners at one point. We all had to learn how to play through discovery, trial and error, and most importantly, through the advice shared by others we played with. Speaking to a friend of mine the other day, I was paid one of the kindest compliments I’ve received in a long while. She said to me, “You give such great advice, I love talking to you.” I can’t honestly say that any of my advice is all that great, but her words meant a lot to me. And apparently, my words to her mean a lot, too. It’s a trade and through simple acts of sharing advice and thoughts based upon our own experiences, we’re able to make someone feel valuable, cared for, and important. The question now becomes, why wouldn’t you want to make someone’s day by being helpful or encouraging? It is certainly important that we provide everyone with the necessary tools to handle in-game concerns such as inappropriate language and harassment, that’s a given. But it has been and will always be up to us as players to walk-the-talk of building and maintaining a positive community. Not to be too corny, but it’s like the film, Pay It Forward. Get enough people doing little things to be helpful and positive, and voila! Let the domino effect commence. |
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7/18/2012
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While I appreciate the OP's sentiments and whole-heartedly agree with his belief that we should not stand for such pathetic, petty behavior (seriously, how much of a loser do you have to be to spend your time insulting and degrading people over a game?), reporting won't do any good. The option to report for harassment or abuse has been removed -- only foul language, naming violations, or cheating are reportable offenses now -- and even when you could, Blizzard didn't tend to do much.
As I said in another thread, Blizzard is a large and diverse company, and I don't want to drag the whole company's name through the mud as most of its employees are good people doing good work, but whoever's in charge of moderating the players obviously doesn't care and should be ashamed of themselves. My solution? Ostracism. If someone is giving you grief, initiate a votekick. It works surprisingly often. Costing them some valor is a far more effective punishment than anything Blizzard is willing to do. Then ignore them. It's not a permanent solution, but it might slow them down a bit. And at least you won't have to deal with them again. |
#232
7/18/2012
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You have to open up a physical ticket for it, instead of using the right-click menu. From there, you can fill out a ticket and remind the GM in the ticket this isn't for language. It's for harassment. |
#233
7/18/2012
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Edited by Rhizza on 7/18/12 4:21 PM (PDT)
Not to be too corny, but it’s like the film, Pay It Forward. Get enough people doing little things to be helpful and positive, and voila! Let the domino effect commence. I've thought of this too and, if the world were a perfect place, it would happen this way. Sadly, it is not reality. People use the internet and their computers as shields. They can hide within the bubble of anonymity and spew forth whatever vulgar filth they want with few to no consequences. To be honest, WoW is notorious for its awful community and I personally know three people who quit the game entirely because of it. Their enjoyment of the game became tainted and ruined by the monstrous behavior in the game. After getting no GM support, they left and didn't come back. Expecting the community to police itself is understandable to a point. But there also comes a time where additional support by the GMs is needed. Some serious cracking down is in order in some cases. Tell me this: why has nothing been done about Moon Guard's Goldshire? You have adults and minors interacting sexually together and Blizz doesn't seem to bat an eye. They simply say its the parents' responsibility to watch their kids. Or they say that the MRP addon is not an in-game WoW feature so nothing can be done.This is true...but again only to a point. People do not and cannot have eyes on their kids 24/7. Blizz has a responsibility as well. They have a ToS to uphold and a good 99% of the people in Goldshire on that server are breaking it in really huge ways 24 hours per day 365 days per year. Its been going on for years now. It sounds to me like Blizzard GMs just find excuses so they don't have to deal with the Goldshire problem because it has been allowed to get so far out of control. |
#234
7/18/2012
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I haven't tried it myself, but I'm told doing this will result in an automated message telling you to use the right click menu. |
#235
7/18/2012
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better idea. Better idea is to remember there is a person behind the keystrokes. Anyone can take offense to something so little. Especially when having a bad day. |
#236
7/18/2012
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When anyone criticizes another player without offering any improvement, they are just as being guilty of being a baddie as the low DPSer who has ignored tips on how to improve.
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#237
7/18/2012
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Edited by Oteris on 7/18/12 4:35 PM (PDT)
better idea. ignore them. they just want someone to react them. im not just talking about the ignore list in game. i personally dont use it because i just wont respond to them. sure it might get worse at 1st as they get upset you are not reacting to them but they will get bored and go away eventually. this hurts their feelings much more than anything you could say in reaction to them. also. its just text on a online video game typed by someone that most likely would never say nor do anything like how they act online oh and most likely wont ever meet IRL. why are you letting it hurt your feelings? |
#238
7/18/2012
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Edited by Kathucki on 7/18/12 4:41 PM (PDT)
Just keep in mind that the goal of those dimwit trolls is to stir up as much fuss as possible. By "taking a stand", you are playing right into their hands. If you spend your energy responding to their worthless nonsense, they'll enjoy it, laugh, and do it more.
The proper response is, "Welcome to my ignore list, troll." Then put them on your ignore list. Trolls are trying to get attention, and they HATE being ignored. Edit: Yes, if it really goes over the top, file a ticket for harassment. Blizzard does take action on the truly offensive stuff. |
#239
7/18/2012
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Edited by Morgam on 7/18/12 4:38 PM (PDT)
you have the same passion as the next player: You love to play World of Warcraft! Judging from a lot of the posts I've seen on the forums, I'm not entirely sure that's true. It seems a number of players hate World of Warcraft. ...and still play it. |
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7/18/2012
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