Reigns of the Black War Mammoth

90 Human Warrior
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If I buy the expansions, collect 2000 honor points, can I go to Wintergrasp to buy the Black War Mammoth? (Since I think it looks the coolest out of the war mounts) Does the area requires a certain level to access, and via what ways can I access the area?
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11 Goblin Shaman
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As long as you have the Wrath expansion, you should be able to buy it at any level.

It doesn't require a certain level to access, but unless the Alliance controls Wintergrasp, the vendor (and guards) will be hostile towards you. Make sure Alliance controls it before going there.

Edit:
Getting into Wintergrasp might be a bit of a pain at lower levels. You can only get there by flying. If the flight paths are not automatically available (I don't think they are), you'll have to die in Icecrown, where you'll be able to fly in spirit form regardless of level, and use that to fly over the mountains into Wintergrasp where you will be auto-dismounted then find the spirit healer and take a rez. There are many tips on ways to get into Wintergrasp at lower levels without a flying mount, you can google it for more specific tips on ways to get there.
Edited by Nezne on 7/15/2012 9:04 AM PDT
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90 Human Warrior
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How can I enter Northrend in the first place? (Since it's quite like an island, I think swimming there wouldn't work, there's a gryphon master there?)
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100 Blood Elf Hunter
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07/15/2012 04:09 PMPosted by Gengkiskan
How can I enter Northrend in the first place? (Since it's quite like an island, I think swimming there wouldn't work, there's a gryphon master there?)

Northrend is an instanced continent (like how Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor are separated from one another). You can neither fly nor swim there.

There's a boat to get to Northrend in Stormwind and also in Menethil Harbor, depending on where you want to go (Borean Tundra or Howling Fjord).

However, you cannot get there if you do not have the Wrath of the Lich King expansion. Attempting to ride on the boat there will boot you back out if you do not have that expansion on your account.
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90 Human Warrior
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Oh, so can I travel to Northrend by boat, die in Borean Tundra, and fly to wintergrasp? And how can I know which faction is controlling Wintergrasp?
Edited by Gengkiskan on 7/15/2012 4:57 PM PDT
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100 Troll Priest
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07/15/2012 04:56 PMPosted by Gengkiskan
Oh, so can I travel to Northrend by boat, die in Borean Tundra, and fly to wintergrasp? And how can I know which faction is controlling Wintergrasp?


If the flight path is open for you, then yes you can fly there. You can tell who has control on your map. If the fortress (large building at the north end of the map) is blue it's alliance controlled.

However, once you purchase the full game you could ask someone with a two seater mount to escort you many would especially if you offer a tip of some gold :D
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90 Human Warrior
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Flight path? You mean gryphon master? Isn't Wintergrasp only accessible through boat? (Since I'll try to buy the mount right when I get to lv40)
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07/15/2012 06:41 PMPosted by Gengkiskan
Flight path? You mean gryphon master? Isn't Wintergrasp only accessible through boat? (Since I'll try to buy the mount right when I get to lv40)

Read Nezne's post again. I think you're a bit confused.

Wintergrasp is a zone in the middle of Northrend. It's surrounded by mountains and cannot be accessed by foot. You get to Northrend by boat.

Nezne suggested that you somehow drag yourself all the way to Icecrown (another zone in Northrend), and then when you are dead you can fly as a ghost (you are given a spectral gryphon to fly on when you die in Northrend, since a lot of the zone is mountainous. I'm not sure if there are other zones like this or if it's just Northrend, as I am not in Northrend as frequently anymore). Then it is suggested you fly to Wintergrasp as a ghost and rez as a spirit healer. (Again, I have no idea if this technique works. I thought they fixed it a while back where you couldn't rez in different zones as a ghost. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though!)

As this would be a very time consuming process of corpse-dragging yourself through Northrend to see if this technique would work, Kagara suggested you ask someone to fly you there with a two-person flying mount for a tip, as that might be faster and less deadly.

Flight paths in Northrend are available but only open up when you are the correct level. You wouldn't see a flight path to Wintergrasp until you were somewhere in your 70s, level wise. You could always wait until you were the appropriate level to get to Wintergrasp, I suppose. :P
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07/15/2012 06:52 PMPosted by Cerylia
(Again, I have no idea if this technique works. I thought they fixed it a while back where you couldn't rez in different zones as a ghost. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though!)

I believe you can fly to the new position you want to rez at, log out of the game and then when you log back in you can rez at the new position -- that used to be the only way to do it. If you just try to rez at the spirit healer I am pretty certain it will boot you back to the spirit healer closest to where you died.

The log out workaround may have been fixed as well, I don't know.
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90 Human Warrior
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That does seems complex, do you guys think I should use the 2,000 honor points to buy the black war elekk instead? Since I may not be able to access Wintergrasp at all at my level.
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do you guys think I should use the 2,000 honor points to buy the black war elekk instead? Since I may not be able to access Wintergrasp at all at my level.


If that's what you want to do. It's your honor points.
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64 Tauren Death Knight
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07/15/2012 07:48 PMPosted by Gengkiskan
That does seems complex, do you guys think I should use the 2,000 honor points to buy the black war elekk instead? Since I may not be able to access Wintergrasp at all at my level.


You can't use the Reins of the Black War Mammoth at your level either.

Note how it says "requires level 40"

The training skill to use this mount can't be trained until level 40.

Same with Reins of the Black War Elekk
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07/15/2012 10:09 PMPosted by Nobully
That does seems complex, do you guys think I should use the 2,000 honor points to buy the black war elekk instead? Since I may not be able to access Wintergrasp at all at my level.


You can't use the Reins of the Black War Mammoth at your level either.

Note how it says "requires level 40"

The training skill to use this mount can't be trained until level 40.

Same with Reins of the Black War Elekk

He said he wanted to buy the mount when he turned level 40.
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64 Tauren Death Knight
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07/15/2012 10:21 PMPosted by Cerylia
He said he wanted to buy the mount when he turned level 40.

yeah... i missed that part, it ws buried quite a few posts down.

That being the case, there is absolutely no problem getting into the zone at level 40.

OP will be able to join a guild once they're off trial restrictions.

They can get a guild member to summon them directly to the vendor.
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64 Tauren Death Knight
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Back again :P

Something else to consider with both of these mounts, is their size can be problematic.

Especially in some battlegrounds, and with all doorways.
The smaller mounts will dismount you when you go to enter a building, but these big clunky ones just get stuck ramming into the doorway until you manually dismount.

They're big and boxy, and at times they're like trying to drive a limousine on a bicycle track.
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97 Blood Elf Priest
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In some zones, when you're dead, you become mounted as a spirit and can fly. This is because some zones would be difficult, if not impossible to recover your body if you couldn't fly to it.

You may be able to get to northrend (by boat, or by having a mage teleport you to Dalaran)... run, by foot to Icecrown, die somewhere along the way and become mounted. From icecrown, you can fly up into wintergrasp (I think). I'm not positive how the spirit healers work. These aren't normal spirit healers.... wintergrasp spirit healers automatically resurrect anyone within their range every 30 seconds, and my guess is they will resurrect you where you stand. Logging out and logging back in before resurrecting might be wise to do, just in case.

You can get to Northrend via the boat, or you can have a mage teleport you to dalaran. Dalaran is much closer to the enterance of Icecrown, so probably best to ask for a mage portal if this is how you want to try and get it. Dalaran is a floating island which you can exit by running through the sewers, and then falling to your death to the land below.

If this doesn't work, then you'll have to have someone fly you there or have a warlock (and two friends) teleport you.

That does seems complex, do you guys think I should use the 2,000 honor points to buy the black war elekk instead? Since I may not be able to access Wintergrasp at all at my level.


You can get there at your level, you just may have to jump through some hoops to do it. Doesn't really matter... Honor points aren't THAT hard to earn, especially at higher levels so you can easily re-gain the honor points at a later time to get the mammoth. Just depends on how much you want which mount, first, and how many hoops you're willing to jump through.
Edited by Hershe on 7/16/2012 12:14 AM PDT
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100 Tauren Druid
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Getting into Wintergrasp might be a bit of a pain at lower levels. You can only get there by flying


I haven't done it since Wrath so it might have changed but there used to be a port to the Fortress in Dalaran if your faction held WG.
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100 Worgen Mage
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07/15/2012 10:35 PMPosted by Nobully
That being the case, there is absolutely no problem getting into the zone at level 40.

And FWIW, I'm not sure when the FP to Dalaran is first available, but I've flown there in the 30's to get a bear for 40.

Of course, mage ports are faster, but may not be cheaper. Point is, getting to Dalaran is easy, after that it's a matter of heading northwest to Icecrown, then dying (the easiest part).

07/16/2012 05:47 AMPosted by Dasffion
I haven't done it since Wrath so it might have changed but there used to be a port to the Fortress in Dalaran if your faction held WG.

There is, but I don't know if there's a level requirement to use it. Be the fastest option if there isn't.
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I thought you need to to be lvl 68 to get to northrend kind of like you need to be 58 to got to outland.
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90 Night Elf Rogue
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07/16/2012 08:41 AMPosted by Elloe
I thought you need to to be lvl 68 to get to northrend kind of like you need to be 58 to got to outland.


Those are the levels that the quests open up at, but you can travel there at any level. Northrend just requires that you have upgraded your account as far as WotLK.
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