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08/05/2012 04:07 PMPosted by Noitora

Its LOLSHA! That Orc isn't responsible for his actions, and no one, not the Pandaren nor the Alliance, will -ever- hold it against the Horde. Nope, they'll be lauded for having been able to resist as long as they were, and be labelled as unfortunate, honorable victims of a corruptive power.

There has been enough history of this that I'm not even sure if sarcasm matters anymore.

/Alliance Bias

You mis quoted me! :P

08/05/2012 04:05 PMPosted by Lothor

Its LOLSHA! That Orc isn't responsible for his actions, and no one, not the Pandaren nor the Alliance, will -ever- hold it against the Horde. Nope, they'll be lauded for having been able to resist as long as they were, and be labelled as unfortunate, honorable victims of a corruptive power.

This is what I mean. I'm pretty sure, it is still their fault. The Sha are like say the symbiote from the Spider-Man universe. It feeds on negative emotions and brings them out much easier. So no it isn't a LOL Sha, it's just the sha breaking out the emotions.

Now if that was sarcasm, you're not helping.

There has been enough history of this that I'm not even sure if sarcasm matters anymore.

/Alliance Bias

Is this going to turn into one of those threads?

08/05/2012 04:05 PMPosted by Lothor

Its LOLSHA! That Orc isn't responsible for his actions, and no one, not the Pandaren nor the Alliance, will -ever- hold it against the Horde. Nope, they'll be lauded for having been able to resist as long as they were, and be labelled as unfortunate, honorable victims of a corruptive power.

This is what I mean. I'm pretty sure, it is still their fault. The Sha are like say the symbiote from the Spider-Man universe. It feeds on negative emotions and brings them out much easier. So no it isn't a LOL Sha, it's just the sha breaking out the emotions.

Now if that was sarcasm, you're not helping.

Still not the Orc's fault. It won't be. The Horde will be forgiven. The Panda kids they kidnapped will even make them cookies and apologize for having been kidnapped by them in the first place.

I'm not joking. I'm being dead serious. I doubt -anyone- affected by the Sha will ever be held accountable for their actions by the Pandaren.

This is what I mean. I'm pretty sure, it is still their fault. The Sha are like say the symbiote from the Spider-Man universe. It feeds on negative emotions and brings them out much easier. So no it isn't a LOL Sha, it's just the sha breaking out the emotions.

Now if that was sarcasm, you're not helping.

Still not the Orc's fault. It won't be. The Horde will be forgiven. The Panda kids they kidnapped will even make them cookies and apologize for having been kidnapped by them in the first place.

I'm not joking. I'm being dead serious. I doubt -anyone- affected by the Sha will ever be held accountable for their actions by the Pandaren.

Not true. Your cynicism is speaking for you and clouding your objectivity.

This is what I mean. I'm pretty sure, it is still their fault. The Sha are like say the symbiote from the Spider-Man universe. It feeds on negative emotions and brings them out much easier. So no it isn't a LOL Sha, it's just the sha breaking out the emotions.

Now if that was sarcasm, you're not helping.

Everyone feels and thinks things, but don't act on every feeling and thought. It's going to come down to that everything that happens is the Shas fault or at the very least our fault for not being perfect little darlings that uphold the same philosphies as the Pandaerians. The Alliance isn't going to come out of this as being any better than the Horde.

This is what I mean. I'm pretty sure, it is still their fault. The Sha are like say the symbiote from the Spider-Man universe. It feeds on negative emotions and brings them out much easier. So no it isn't a LOL Sha, it's just the sha breaking out the emotions.

Now if that was sarcasm, you're not helping.

Still not the Orc's fault. It won't be. The Horde will be forgiven. The Panda kids they kidnapped will even make them cookies and apologize for having been kidnapped by them in the first place.

I'm not joking. I'm being dead serious. I doubt -anyone- affected by the Sha will ever be held accountable for their actions by the Pandaren.

Im trying to think of better things and stay positive but... Im sorry but this just sounds so correct...

This is what I mean. I'm pretty sure, it is still their fault. The Sha are like say the symbiote from the Spider-Man universe. It feeds on negative emotions and brings them out much easier. So no it isn't a LOL Sha, it's just the sha breaking out the emotions.

Now if that was sarcasm, you're not helping.

Everyone feels and thinks things, but don't act on every feeling and thought. It's going to come down to that everything that happens is the Shas fault or at the very least our fault for not being perfect little darlings that uphold the same philosphies as the Pandaerians. The Alliance isn't going to come out of this as being any better than the Horde.

Again cynicism clouds your judgment.

Im trying to think of better things and stay positive but... Im sorry but this just sounds so correct...

Then stay positive. I'm afraid to but I've lean towards more the optimistic side of things.

08/05/2012 04:11 PMPosted by Elenie

I'm not joking. I'm being dead serious. I doubt -anyone- affected by the Sha will ever be held accountable for their actions by the Pandaren.

The vibe I get is that they will look down upon those who have fallen to the sway of the sha as those who should be ashamed for their actions and take responsibility.

I mean, their whole life style is pretty much to prevent being swayed by them from my understanding, so failing to take in that life style WOULD be dishonorable/shameful at the very least.

08/05/2012 03:39 PMPosted by Elenie

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Aaaaaahahahahahahahaha.

Hehe.

Heh.

All will be forgiven because of LOLSHA.

Oh, most definitely. That dialogue is laying on the "this is the Sha's fault" foreshadowing pretty damn thick.

That said, I was more laughing because of how that line speaks to the whole "Ashenvale is all the Night Elves' fault because they should have sent Emisaries to Grom in WCIII" argument that crops up here on a near-weekly basis.

08/05/2012 04:12 PMPosted by Lothor

Not true. Your cynicism is speaking for you and clouding your objectivity.

There's precedent. See Orcs v. Cenarius, Orcs v. Draenei, Orcs v Red Dragonflight, Orcs v. Humans....

Is this going to turn into one of those threads?

All threads are those threads.

Elenie is being affected by the Sha of Doubt!

08/05/2012 04:16 PMPosted by Noitora

There's precedent. See Orcs v. Cenarius, Orcs v. Draenei, Orcs v Red Dragonflight, Orcs v. Humans....

*Downs cape and cowl* "Things change."

Elenie is being affected by the Sha of Doubt!

She's been affected for awhile now./sunglasses

08/05/2012 04:15 PMPosted by Jaelara

That said, I was more laughing because of how that line speaks to the whole "Ashenvale is all the Night Elves' fault because they should have sent Emisaries to Grom in WCIII" argument that crops up here on a near-weekly basis.

You know, I don't know about other people, but I don't think it's ALL their fault. But to say they don't have any blame on that issue seems wrong to me. Would seem silly to argue it's ALL the night elves fault.

08/05/2012 04:16 PMPosted by Noitora

All threads are those threads.

I could make some snarky comment but instead I'll just agree that lately too many threads have become one of those types of threads.

EDIT:

Hey, look. It's an Ashenvale thread in disguise!

Not true. Your cynicism is speaking for you and clouding your objectivity.

Objectivity should be clouded.

Not that I agree with Elenie (not that I don't either) but having a fully objective mind is a bad thing. You SHOULD look at past actions. You SHOULD allow your bias to motivate you.

*Downs cape and cowl* "Things change."

And, things have to actually change before saying "it may be different this time"

08/05/2012 04:18 PMPosted by Bullcowsby

I could make some snarky comment but instead I'll just agree that lately too many threads have become one of those types of threads.

The bright side is you can actually get a decent discussion going here sometimes. Unlike the General forums. Or any hunter thread on the damage dealing forums, or the arena forums... you know, this is starting to include a lot of the forums...

Objectivity should be clouded.

Not that I agree with Elenie (not that I don't either) but having a fully objective mind is a bad thing. You SHOULD look at past actions. You SHOULD allow your bias to motivate you.

No Objectivity means you have no bias whatsoever affecting your judgment. I have looked in the past but I'll wait for the movie.

08/05/2012 04:17 PMPosted by Aranesh

Elenie is being affected by the Sha of Doubt!

*Vomits little weird thingies*

All better.

All those afflicted by the Sha will still not be held accountable for their actions and the damage they cause. All will be forgiven. Why? Because holding a grudge would attract -more- Sha. So they -HAVE- to be forgiven. The story dictates it is going to happen.