Comprehensive Gaming PC Guide Discussion - IV

90 Tauren Druid
7535
ok with my dads computer, when we were upgrading it we needed the extra cables that came off of it to get his video card i believe working, will i have that problem. what do i need to look for in a power supply?
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9210
Only if your monitor does not use the cables required by the graphics card.
Otherwise, no.

As for the power supply, ensure 80 Plus Bronze certified, 500W. Modular is optional, but it does help a lot with keeping the insides of your computer tidy and neat.
90 Tauren Druid
7535
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SAPPHIRE 100355OCL Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card OC Version

Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

MSI B75MA-P45 LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Intel Core i5-3450S Ivy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 65W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53450S

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Corsair Neutron Series GTX CSSD-N120GBGTX-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Ok so thats what im working with atm. I just need to be able to play games like guild wars 2 and d3 and wow with the setting fairly high and if this do im happy :) . and ill start looking at the other site to see if i can find anything cheaper.
90 Tauren Druid
7535
o and do i even need a sound card if im just goin to use my head set the whole time?
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9210
You do not need a sound card.

Plain i5-3450 is cheaper by $5

EarthWatts does NOT come with a power cord.
Edited by Kalganized on 9/6/2012 1:05 PM PDT
90 Tauren Druid
7535
Ty very much and i didnt even notice it didnt come with a power cord. Lol thats a kinda cheesy way to advertise, we are greener because we make you reuse your cable.
90 Human Warrior
10600
Kalganized, you've been an incredible help to so many. Thank you so much for taking so much of your time to help others. I've thought hard about building my own computer. I'm not even sure if I want to get a new decent PC (which I've wanted for years now but never had the money to get) altogether since I have my last year of undergrad coming up. Regardless, I saved a build in pcpartpicker using your guidelines. It was more than I was anticipating to spend, but with all the free shippings and rebates (some which expire in a few days) that come with many of the parts, I feel like I need to act on this now if I decide I should get it.

  • CPU Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core $189.98
  • Motherboard ASRock B75M Micro ATX LGA1155 $72.55
  • Memory Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $36.99
  • Storage Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM $58.87
  • Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB $189.99
  • Case Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower $49.49
  • Power Supply SeaSonic 520W ATX12V / EPS12V $59.50
  • Monitor Asus ML228H 21.5" $149.98
  • Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $89.98
  • Total: $897.33
    What parts could I possibly save a bit more in? Thank you in advance.
    Edited by Lamari on 9/6/2012 1:28 PM PDT
    100 Blood Elf Paladin
    9210
    If you are on the last year of undergrad and you plan to move elsewhere after, you can consider building a mini-ITX build instead -- which would be far easier to carry around than a mid-tower.

    But if you are fine with a mid-tower... that's up to you.

    What you can do to save:

    1- There are cheaper B75 motherboards
    Unfortunately, that's about it.

    You can consider getting a cheaper graphics card, but that means less performance from the GPU. You can also consider getting a cheaper CPU, but once again, less performance.

    I assume you have the DVD drive handy? You'll need it for Windows 7.
    90 Human Warrior
    10600
    I will be living at home for my final year. I just won't be making as much money as I am at the moment.

    I'll also be using a DVD drive from an old computer in the house.

    I'll be sticking with the mid-tower but I will also look at the mini-ITX build. I've never heard of that lol.

    Thanks again for your advice!
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    Ok Kalg, I need you help!

    So I am currently assembling my computer. I am following new eggs video and have built it outside of the case and followed all the instructions. The only thing I did different was connect the case's power switch to the motherboard so I wouldn't be shorting the pins, but instead just pressing the power switch.

    Here's the problem: Theres no post beep or bios flash on screen or anything. I tried re-seating everything and Ive followed a few online instructions for this but they aren't helpful.

    Here are my symptoms:

    -I press power switch
    -cpu fan turns on, stalls, then goes again and will stay going
    -no post beep
    -monitor says no hdmi signal (i also tried plugging directly into the mother board hdmi instead of the gnu hdmi, same thing)
    -when i plug key board into any usb slot, it has no power
    -i press power on/off switch again and it will not turn off. I have to press the switch on the psu to turn it off.

    ok, i took a little break and am trying it again, now it will not stay on, the fans flash up then turn off, flash up again, then turn off again. From what I can tell it may be a psu problem? Is that common enough?
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    my specs:

    msi B75MA-E33
    i3-2120
    asus hd-7850
    seasonic m12 bronze 520w
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    if you need other info let me know!
    100 Blood Elf Paladin
    9210
    Katamie:

    Have you connected the CPU power plug to the system?
    90 Gnome Priest
    4875
    Hello Kalganized I am planning my first build and wanted to see what you thought. I plan to use the rig mainly for WoW 10, 25 man raids and PvP. I plan to upgrade to a i5 or i7 and SSD later in the future. I'd like to keep this as cheap as possible (Under 600$) but upgrade able. With next to no knowledge besides your forum and google this is what I came up with.

    Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235033
    Open to other cases just wanting a side window

    CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775

    Mobo:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128554
    I was a little confused here as i dont plan to crossfire but I may buy a i5k so I didnt think the B75 would work later on.

    Gpu:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161402

    Ram:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546

    PSU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

    HD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136696

    CD drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067
    100 Blood Elf Paladin
    9210
    Case seems to have a lot of issues; try others.

    Are you going to actually overclock the i5 by getting i5-3570k, or are you just getting i5-3450? If you aren't getting OC versions of i5/i7, there's no reason to get Z77.

    While the HIS card is good, you can find cheaper HD 7770s. You need to get it as cheap as possible to fit price-power balance.

    It's strongly recommended to buy a HD new. These are mechanical, and they have a finite life. 250GB is too small, TBH. If you aren't ever going to use that much space, I'd go big and buy an SSD instead (and no HD).
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    although i did see a cpu power plug on the motherboard there was not a cable on (or came with) the psu that fit that outlet(inlet idk?)
    100 Blood Elf Paladin
    9210
    There should be. It's usually 4 pin x2 (depending on motherboard, you only need one, or should plug in both).
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    but man that sounds like that'd the problem. if it is then im gonna dance fight like kevin bacon in footloose right across my lawn!
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    crap, the one i looked at was 4pin x2 and i didnt spread it apart...here comes the /dancefight
    90 Night Elf Death Knight
    11945
    oh and hows my build look anyways? im not bottlenecking the gpu with that cpu am i?
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