Comprehensive Gaming PC Guide Discussion - IV

90 Troll Hunter
5360
Ahh okay, I assumed it was along those lines. Wonderful, placing my order later this afternoon or tomorrow :) Once I get it all set I'll let you know how it went x.x Although I might have questions!
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9195
I would probably get a better case tbh, the case may not fit the EVO fan.
90 Troll Hunter
5360
Any recommendations?
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9195
CoolerMaster HAF 912

Edit: Massive rewriting of CPU and Motherboard part to support future AMD products
Edited by Kalganized on 10/4/2012 12:49 PM PDT
90 Blood Elf Paladin
15510
What differentiates a "gaming" keyboard from a regular one?
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9195
"Gaming" keyboards usually come with following key features:

1. Mechanical keys (Cherry keys), which has a firm tactile feedback when you type. Generally considered higher-quality in terms of quality over typical keyboards using membrane.

2. Anti-ghosting tech, which allows you to press multiple keys at once and have it register. Non-gaming keyboards / keyboards that do not feature this will choke and won't register certain combo of key presses.

3. Macro keys, it's as it says.
90 Troll Hunter
4620
Yeah check this out, if you got about $150 for a really nice keyboard, I got this Red LED Backlite Nighthawk x9 with Cherry MX RED switches. and you can customize any of the LED lights to a nice selection of colors like the WASD keys. you can also get these Cherry MX Rubber O-Ring Dampeners if your new to these type of keyboards, it helps Reduce the "Clack" noise/sound from bottoming out. CHECK IT OUT!!
90 Troll Hunter
4620
they also have a forum running all of the time for a full 20% discount.
http://www.forums.custompcreview.com/f75/max-keyboard-group-buy-thread-9-a-1231/index4.html
Edited by Murckya on 10/4/2012 7:18 PM PDT
87 Night Elf Death Knight
4465
dunno if any of you guys noticed, but Radeon 7700 and 7800 gpu's dropped in price again today, or yesterday for my time zone.

http://wccftech.com/amd-announces-price-cuts-for-radeon-hd-7850-hd7770/

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphics/display/20121004091915_AMD_Slashes_Pricing_of_Radeon_HD_7700_7800_Graphics_Cards.html

those pages have been updated to clarify that AMD themselves didn't drop the price, but the branded manufacturer's dropped the price to compete with a card nVidia is releasing soon.

i'm hoping we see a drop on the 7950/7970 before black friday, that's about when i plan on ordering my new build.
90 Pandaren Monk
1825
Needing your advice, as I don't know anything at all about computer performance. I'm looking to get a new laptop for school/gaming. I raid and PVP, but not hardcore. Just looking for a budget laptop, around $600 or less, that will run WoW efficiently.

I've read through all of your thread, and am still having trouble deciding where to start. If you could link me to one or two good laptops within my budget, I'd appreciate it.
90 Troll Hunter
4620
I want to run Raids on Normal or higher settings without any problems.
(No Overclocking whatsoever)
So I am having cyberpowerpc.com build myself a PC.
Please let me know if any of my parts will not work/or work well with each other or if they do not provide a great benefit compared to a similar part for maybe less price or if I just dont need it at all.
(I am not a harcore gamer, I just want to become a hardcore wow gamer).
Below are the Parts the I am considering.

CPU: i5-3570 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache

HDD: 500GB SATA-III 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM

*HDD2/SSD(Data HDD) [Since it was recommended] :
-120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write (Single Drive)
(below are the other options not sure which is best){All prices below are compared to this SSD}
-120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write (120GB x 2 (120GB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security)
[+$96 more] or
(240GB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance)
[+$96 more as well]

-120GB Corsair Force Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 550MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write (Single Drive)
[+$9 more] or
(120GB x 2 (240GB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance)
[+$114 more] or
(120GB x 2 (120GB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security)
[+$114 more as well]

-120 GB Intel 330 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s - 500 MB/s Read & 450 MB/s Write (Single Drive) [+$16 more] or
(120GB x 2 (240GB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance)
[+$128 more] or
(120GB x 2 (120GB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security)
[+$128 more as well]

-120 GB Intel 520 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s - 550 MB/s Read & 520 MB/s Write (Single Drive)
[+$38 more] or
(120GB x 2 (240GB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance)
[+$172 more] or
(120GB x 2 (120GB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security)
[+$172 more as well]

-120GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III 6.0 Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 515MB/s Write (VR Zone Editor’s Choice 10/10) (Single Drive)
[+$39 more] or
(120GB x 2 (240GB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance)
[+$174 more] or
(120GB x 2 (120GB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security)
[+174 more as well]

-120 GB Kingston HyperX 3K SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write (Single Drive) {$30.00 MIR - Mail In Rebate}
[+$49 more] or
(120GB x 2 (240GB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance)
[+$194 more]
(120GB x 2 (120GB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security)
[+$194 more as well]

Again ALL of these prices quoted above are ALL compared to the 1st SSD:
120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Which is the cheapest of them all, would just like sum opinions on the rest is all.

MEMORY/RAM: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance)

MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H Intel B75 Chipset DDR3 mATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, HDMI, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-III, 2x Gen2 PCIe x16 & PCI
(No Overclocking)

POWERSUPPLY: * 850 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (80+ Gold)

VIDEO CARD/GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7950 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card

*Cooling Parts

CPU FAN: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan, Fan Speed 600 - 2,000 RPM

Hard Drive Cooling Fan: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System (1 x System)
[+$21] (Not sure if I absolutely need this but if it will help more than slightly to cool down PC I will take it)

Still Deciding on a Mid-Tower/Gaming Case,
wondering how many fans I would need for my case to keep my PC from, more than slightly, increasing the Temp in my room, my room is not very big,
including the plasma TV that i keep on sometimes lol. SO I am looking to keep my PC AS COOL AS POSSIBLE.

and if I need to there is an option as well on cyberpowerpc.com to add an,
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: (something like this for example)
Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans(Maximum Silent Operation)
(500-1,200 RPM, 8-14 dBA)

So jw how many fans/extra fans would it take to keep it cool-extra cool.
Edited by Murckya on 10/6/2012 11:26 PM PDT
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9195
Don't bother with RAID SSD tbh. Also, Agility 3 is strongly not recommended. Go Vertex 4, Samsung 830/840, Intel 520, etc...

850W is overkill for a single GPU setup but CyberPower PC doesn't have a lot of options for that...

You can consider going with liquid cooling instead, that they offer.

Hard drive cooling is not necessary at all.

Case is up to you. Generally, a full-tower case would cool better.

You don't really need "extra case fan upgrades".
90 Blood Elf Death Knight
2245
cyberpowerpc.com isnt that bad of an option for building a PC if you dont want to build your own, is it?
because I really just want to be able to pick the parts and have some website build it for me, easiest and FASTEST.

here are the other options that they listed for me to pick from for power supplies below that 850W: (which ones should run most sufficiently)?

500 Watts - Corsair CX500 V2 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
[+$4 more]
600 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2 Builder Series CX600 V2 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
[+$9 more]
650 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
[+$47 more]
700 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
[-$16 cheaper]
750 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
[+$47 more] {$10 MIR + [$20 Instant Off]}
750 Watts - Corsair Professional Series CMPSU-AX750 Gold 80 Plus Power Supply
[+$113 more] {$10 MIR}
750 Watts - Thermaltake Smart Series SP-750M 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply
[+$70 more]
750 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-750M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply
[+$149 more] {$30 MIR}
800 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
[+$35 more]

850 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply
[+$86 more]

All prices reflect (500 Watts - Corsair CX500 V2 80 Plus Certified Power Supply)

I know should be using only +80 plus bronze or better but I listed the others just for price comparison if that even helps.

btw i would prefer an 80+ gold if it significantly conserves on power and/or is quieter.
Edited by Murdaman on 10/7/2012 8:05 AM PDT
90 Troll Hunter
4620
oh ya i am murdaman btw idk somehow i got switched onto the other guy lol sorry.
Edited by Murckya on 10/7/2012 2:34 AM PDT
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9195
If you won't CrossFireX nor SLi, I'd recommend Corsair 600W. Not the best choice, but lot cheaper than other significantly superior choices.
90 Troll Hunter
4620
yeah I am going with the Intel 520 SSD since that was my only option out of the ones that you just listed.
Ok I took the HDD Cooling Fan off as well,
and for my CPU Liquid Cooling Fan/Fans these are my options :

-Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan
(Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
(All Venom OC Certified) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

-Asetek 550LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan
(Advanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
(All Venom OC Certified) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
[+$18 more]

-Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan
(All Venom OC Certified) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
[+$14 more]

-Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator
(All Venom OC Certified) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
[+$35 more]

-Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator
(All Venom OC Certified) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
[+$63 more]

{The above & below option prices are ALL compared to the Asetek 510LC base price}
[All of the ABOVE CPU Fans also have these options, for the same price]:

(Dual Standard 120MM Fans) (Push-Pull)
[+$9 more] or
(Single Enermax Enlobal Silent High Performance 120MM Fan)
[+$15 more] or
(Dual Enermax Enlobal Silent High Performance 120MM Fans) (Push-Pull)
[+$29 more]

-CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 240MM w/ Dual Fan
(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Slient at 18dBA)
(All Venom OC Certified)
[+$63 more]

-Asetek 570LX Liquid Cooling system w/ 240MM Radiator and Dual Fans (Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
(All Venom OC Certified)
[+$43 more]

-CoolIT ECO II-240 Extreme Performance Liquid Cooling System 240MM Radiator & Dual Fans
(All Venom OC Certified)
[+$27 more]

-CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan
(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
(All Venom OC Certified)
[+$93 more]

yeah so for a Full Tower Case that supports Liquid Cooling 240mm
I think that I may go with
-"Cooler Master HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case"
{This case is very expensive}$150-200
with 1x 230mm Fan, 1x 200mm Fans, 2x Front USB 3.0 Port {30 MIB}
(this is what cyberpowerpc.com is claiming how many fans that this tower has)
but when i went to newegg it says that this tower has 4 fans.
1x 230mm front fan 1x 140mm rear fan 1x 200mm top 1x 200mm side fan.

other than that my CPU/GPU match up ok?
Edited by Murckya on 10/7/2012 7:48 AM PDT
33 Tauren Druid
2645
Which one is the better build:

THIS: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21294246

Or THIS: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=27804168

(Note: I will change the first link's case to the HAF 912)

(2nd Note: I will add a fan to the first one)
Edited by Trao on 10/7/2012 8:00 AM PDT
87 Night Elf Death Knight
4465
you can get a radeon 7850 for under 200 bucks. it's a bit more than the 7770, but a good bit less than the GTX 660, and will far outperform either.
100 Blood Elf Paladin
9195
Murckya:

Thermaltake Water 2.0 series are pretty great. Even the performer version performs extremely well. I'd consider that.

The Thermaltake comes with 2 fans by default for push-pull; you do not need more.

Yes.
91 Human Priest
8015
whats your opinion on the 1500 dollar alienware aurora? would i be able to stream and run wow on max settings? just wondering if you know
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