that statement doesnt make any sense chrome - how would it ruin anyone's fun? Theres nothing fun about hitting grant level 80 times on another toon lol. Its like milling herbs.
But some clarity would at least provide me the information i need to know whether leveling two toons now is just a waste of time before i waste my time.
I'm not sure how much clearer you want him to be. He said RaF benefits would work on Monk, its not like they are going to pick and choose small things from that list. They are going to work, so help your friend get two 80's (which takes maybe, maybe 2 weeks tops) and you'll get a free level 80 Monk out of the deal. Sure, I won't be eligible for achievements, because I have every single character slot full@85's meaning I'll have to transfer over, I'll still be able to skip the annoying mundane crap I've now done 10 times -.-;
The type of people doing what I'm doing are the more dedicated players that want all their character slots filled with level capped characters (because it costs money and still actual time for the 2 80's you already need to level with your friend helping them along) and most are likely in the same boat and don't have the space available. So I won't be taking your precious server first away (that you already had no chance of getting). 3 of my friends who are also all 85 capped are in the same boat.
So saying people that are using RaF to get this "free" level 80 while others criticize it as bad need to realize we are leveling 2 different 80's with a friend to do so. There is nothing free about it because we are still leveling characters to achieve our goal. We are just doing it earlier than you.
Im going to make the wile assumption that you either didnt read my post in full or you didn understand it, because your response also makes no sense.
Let me better illustrate for you my issue with zarhyms response and my allof comment about leveling via clicking a monk to 80 with grant a levels and how i likend it to milling herbs.
But before we get started, i just want to highlight i have absolutely no clue about this "So I won't be taking your precious server first away (that you already had no chance of getting)" comment. I didnt ellude tro it, dont plan on going for it or even mention it. The reason im highlighting THIS part of your vitriolic comment is because its the bit that really highlights assumption that you either didnt read my post in full or you didn understand it.
its not like they are going to pick and choose small things from that list
Oh, so blizzard have not minced tehir words in the past or relied on technicalities after the fact to stand by what they said as true?
The reason i find zarhyms response ambiguous is because zarhym answers an ambiguous question. It seems like a direct question, but my friend, it is so broad, that people relting on the answer should know better. RAF could change its format before mop to only giving you 2x bonus xp, any grant a levels earned now could be seen as too powerfull and dropped to granting a level every 3 levels instead of 2, and as longh as monks benefited, they would still be right and QQ would ensue.
Think back to the Beta access/anual pass debacle - ALA people who purchase the annual pass will get guaranteed beta access when it goes live. VS you will gewt guaranteed access to the beta (when it is live), although we will stagger the invites.
While I wasnt one of the people who expected an inv to beta day 1, nor did i qq, i totally understood the power of getting clearer answers to parts of questions that actually mattered to me.
So all those people who were blinded like dears when the launcher advertised the annual pass benefits, and hit "sign up" without thinking aboput the logistics of the actual deal simply took a line of text to mean what they wanted it to mean, and yet blizzard were still right on a technicality. All annual pass holders received an invite to beta.
So when somone says "Monks will benefit for RAF" other questions arise because they didn not get asked as part of the original query.
1. will grant a levels earned now work on monk or will new ones need to be earned.
2. will the RAF format remain the same as we know it today when MoP goes live - ie xp bonus, friend summon and grant alevel being earned every 2 levels for the recruit.
Now to highl;ight to you why i made comment to Chromes post not making sense you need to reread his post, Ill post it here for you so you dont have to scroll up too far
Are they really trying to ruin half the fun of release week? Because so far it doesn't look too good.
how would what they do with RAF ruin half the fun of release week? They could remove raf and people would still have fun. There's a whole new expac to explore. RAF is not the bit that makes this game fun, its the bit that makes grinding levels more efficient to skip content to get to end game. End game wont change, just how long it takes you to get there. the fun is not going anywhere. Hitting 80 grant a levels on a toon IS like milling herbs and doesn't affect the actual mechanic of PLAYING this game for fun.
My aloof comment likening granting 80 levels to milling herbs was to illustrate the above statement i just made in a more subtle, non direct way. Unfortunately i cant account for the general populations ability to read between thelines. That was my only mistake.
If people find the end game fun and want to get there ASAP - they have a week to do so. with RAF (starting 1-90) you can get there in 2-4 days of heavy gaming with Grant a level on your monk to 80 and then leveling normally from 80-90 will still take 2 days of heavy gaming. see, end (raid) content is not starting for a week till after release.
Now im unsure where the criticism i make is that you're referring to. In fact my questions and comment to chrome and zarhym are entirely valid.
Given i will be RAFing myself and multi boxing those 2 toons for granting levels, I am entirely justified in being concerned whether the acc i buy now and waste the next several days on leveling is a waste of time or not. If grant a levels wont work the same, ima go outside or something instead, dig?
TL;DR - Learn to read.