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08/17/2012 04:54 PMPosted by Kaioon

Does anyone want to point out that this mortal, grey-haired man that looks to be in his mid 40's is holding his own against an orc that, near as I can tell, is one gigantic 350lb bicep with legs?

I fail to see your point. The cinematic captured the strengths of the two very well.

The Orc was large, and used his strength to his advantage. He was able to send the Human flying with a quick kick while laying on his side, while the Human was flying toward him. He was also smart in using a lamp as an improvised weapon.

Meanwhile, the Human was smaller, but faster, and was able to evade most of the Orc's blows. He was also smart in making a spear with his sword.

08/17/2012 04:57 PMPosted by Pyronaptor

Does anyone want to point out that this mortal, grey-haired man that looks to be in his mid 40's is holding his own against an orc that, near as I can tell, is one gigantic 350lb bicep with legs?

I fail to see your point. The cinematic captured the strengths of the two very well.

The Orc was large, and used his strength to his advantage. He was able to send the Human flying with a quick kick while laying on his side, while the Human was flying toward him. He was also smart in using a lamp as an improvised weapon.

Meanwhile, the Human was smaller, but faster, and was able to evade most of the Orc's blows. He was also smart in making a spear with his sword.

The human was small and old, as far as soldiers go. The orc should have been both stronger and faster.

08/17/2012 04:59 PMPosted by Kaioon

The human was small and old, as far as soldiers go. The orc should have been both stronger and faster.

How do you know he was old? He looked like he was in his thirties to me.

And how do you know the Orc wasn't old either?

I also liked that the human has noticeable scars all over him. Very good attention to detail in this cinematic.

To the OP,
Your attitude of "we'd kill him and fight him on our own, victory or death!" is what will lead your Warchief to a "victory by any means necessary" mentality, taking down roads even the Horde will come to disapprove of.

08/17/2012 05:01 PMPosted by Pyronaptor

The human was small and old, as far as soldiers go. The orc should have been both stronger and faster.

How do you know he was old? He looked like he was in his thirties to me.

And how do you know the Orc wasn't old either?

The human was greying, his face is lined. He looked like an older man, if you can't identity signs of age in a human I'm not sure what to say.

We get a good look at the orc's face. I'm no expert on orcs, but he looked to be young enough to me. Big black beard without a bit of salt to it. A face without too many lines on it.

08/17/2012 05:03 PMPosted by Kaioon

The human was greying, his face is lined. He looked like an older man, if you can't identity signs of age in a human I'm not sure what to say.

My father started greying in his thirties. It's no sign of age when you live in a world as stressful as Azeroth.

08/17/2012 05:03 PMPosted by Kaioon

We get a good look at the orc's face. I'm no expert on orcs, but he looked to be young enough to me. Big black beard without a bit of salt to it. A face without too many lines on it.

Also, I love how a little grey hair makes you seem older than a long, bushy beard.

Actually it's TWO things:

1) The Alliance sailor wasn't stupid enough to think he could take two enemies on at once...esp against one known and one UNKNOWN enemy.

2) The Alliance sailor KNEW that if he didn't offer the Orc a weapon, the Orc would be worthless in the fight against Chen.

The human was greying, his face is lined. He looked like an older man, if you can't identity signs of age in a human I'm not sure what to say.

We get a good look at the orc's face. I'm no expert on orcs, but he looked to be young enough to me. Big black beard without a bit of salt to it. A face without too many lines on it.

So an experienced, elder man vs a younger, probably inexperienced orc.

Makes sense to me why he'd hold his own.

I think what's truly sad is how serious you take it.

Pretty sure Tandred was owning the orc until he yanked the hammer out of the statue thingy. :p

And the sword was dull and needed sharpening, why do you think he made the wooden spear?

Check your pride at the door. When youre getting your but whooped, the last thing you are going to care about it your pride...its about survival

08/17/2012 05:07 PMPosted by Zarhym

But the actions of the human -- if holistically indicative of Alliance character,

I don't think it's indicative of the Alliance.
Remember the cinematic for Ulduar? Varien and Garrosh went at each other like three seconds after looking at each other. I always thought Orcs and Humans were similar in a lot of was, they are brash and often times very reckless, always ready to draw swords rather than draw words.

It is as Chen said, they fight because it's in their nature.

But the cinematic pointed out their differences very well.
The Orc was a typical I smash you good orc and the human was a bit more defined, the way he even walked and interacted while fighting shouted superiority to me. He looked down at the orc and the orc was just a beserker.

But as someone else pointed out it wouldn't be the first time The Horde and Alliance made a temporary truce to defeat a common enemy. I wouldn't be surprised if they were both a little frightened by the giant Panda man that was kicking their butts. At least the Orc and Human would know what each other were, I believe it's only natural for them to band together to defeat this weird, alien being that is kung fu-ing all around them.

08/17/2012 05:10 PMPosted by Maldrid

Check your pride at the door. When youre getting your but whooped, the last thing you are going to care about it your pride...its about survival

What ever happened to chivalry? D:

08/17/2012 05:14 PMPosted by Vail

Varien and Garrosh went at each other like three seconds after looking at each other. I always thought Orcs and Humans were similar in a lot of was, they are brash and often times very reckless, always ready to draw swords rather than draw words.

Well, not all humans in WoW are like Varian -- same with Garrosh and orcs. And isn't that 'Lo'gosh' causing all the anger issues in the first place?

One last thing - loved the trailer. The badassness of Tandred + plus the brute/berserker actions of the orc was cool to see in the trailer. I was starting to get tired of the whole "peaceful orc" thing anyway.

Also in the trailer, did anyone else notice the orc jump right over tandred after he fell in pursuit of Chen? haha. I guess this was respect on both sides. Tandred gave him the spear and the orc didn't strike at the human when he was in a vulnerable position.

My father started greying in his thirties. It's no sign of age when you live in a world as stressful as Azeroth.

Thirties is old too, too old to enlist and far too old for competitive sports on a professional level. A thirty year old man has already slowed significantly. He's not a man in his prime, and he's already pitted against a physically superior opponent.

So an experienced, elder man vs a younger, probably inexperienced orc.

Makes sense to me why he'd hold his own.

It makes "movie sense", and it sure does make the human look amazing. But in reality, he'd most likely just die.

Because reality's super important in this world where alien ape-men invade medieval kingdoms.