PvP Mounts

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TL;DR at bottom

I will probably get a forum ban for this, but at this point I don't care. As some may recall, I created two threads on mounts, part 1 until it got capped, and part 2 to continue on from the capped thread, as shown here:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5978118076?page=1
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6293819957?page=1

As you'll see in part one, we did in fact have a blue respond to us. I will quote that Blue here:
07/13/2012 08:56 AMPosted by Nethaera
*Just a quick amendment, I'm reading through the thread and we'll be sure to pass on feedback. I'm not just tossing in an off the cuff statement then running away. ;)


So that blue specifically said they weren't going to run away from the thread, and to continue on with our feedback. So what did we do? We continued on as he/she suggested. But what happened? He did, in fact, abandon our thread. A thread with LOADS and LOADS of feedback against their decision towards PvP mounts. Did some people post who did agree with Blizz? Sure, but the majority of these two threads are players AGAINST their decision.

In total there are 87 pages, a little over 1.7k responses. Plenty of feedback in both threads. Am I demanding they make the change? Hell I'd love it but what I am pissed about is the fact that they said they wouldn't abandon the thread, and they did. I'm pissed that despite how many pages of feed back there is, we don't even get a "No", a "Maybe", or "We're not discussing/discussing it" with others.

You swept our thread under the rug and just pretend it's not there until it goes away. !@#$ed up on your part honestly. As someone said in part 2:
08/17/2012 12:46 AMPosted by Best
Blues reply to "when did you start" "Panda Monks OP 2v1" threads but can't come back here and say anything.


It's true. Yeah we get you don't care to put much focus in PvP but the least you can do is one simple thing for this part of your player base. Blizzard used to be my favorite company, great people who respond fast, but not anymore with how I see them acting.

To those of you who may say "Umad?".. Yes I'm pissed off.
"You should quit/going to quit?".. Maybe, maybe not. But PvPers will never have the complete freedom to change from one class to another when the guild/situation calls for it.

So yes, plain and simple, I'm super pissed and Blizz, you've disappointed a lot of players. All I have to say is at this point you all suck a lot, as immature as that sounds but I know no other way to put it. Sorry to come off as ranting/a %^-*!, but what do you expect after what you did? Learn to respond to your playerbase, not ignore them.

And if you can respond to this thread, even if it's just saying "Locked", then you can respond to the other thread as well. I even linked it for you to make it VERY simple for you.

A picture says a thousand words, here's a picture that can sum up this whole post.

TL;DR:
http://i45.tinypic.com/n1c4ye.jpg
Edited by Belladonna on 8/22/2012 8:26 AM PDT
100 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Its possible the Blue didn't have anything to add to the thread and just because they aren't posting in the thread, doesn't mean that they have abandoned it.
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You mad?
100 Gnome Priest
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08/22/2012 08:23 AMPosted by Belladonna
So that blue specifically said they weren't going to run away from the thread, and to continue on with our feedback. So what did we do? We continued on as he/she suggested. But what happened? He did, in fact, abandon our thread. A thread with LOADS and LOADS of feedback against their decision towards PvP mounts. Did some people post who did agree with Blizz? Sure, but the majority of these two threads are players AGAINST their decision.


Neth is a dev. She's not hanging on the forums 24/7. Just because she didn't respond there or give you the answer you wanted at that time, doesn't mean the issue isn't being looked at somewhere.

We're less that a week away from a major patch and a little over a month away from an expansion. There are more important issues for the developers and their teams right now.

Changes in this game are only a patch away.
Edited by Healeighgee on 8/22/2012 8:30 AM PDT
100 Draenei Mage
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08/22/2012 08:23 AMPosted by Belladonna
He did, in fact, abandon our thread.

You have no proof she did. She may have read on and passed on feedback to the devs,

08/22/2012 08:28 AMPosted by Healeighgee
Neth is a dev.

Neth is not a dev, she is a CM.
Edited by Solaru on 8/22/2012 8:34 AM PDT
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08/22/2012 08:30 AMPosted by Belladonna
You mad?


To those of you who may say "Umad?".. Yes I'm pissed off.


love your "acting."
100 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Considering they post in the simplest of threads like these crap /hug a race ones, they could have even just said they aren't discussing it, instead of telling us to give us continuing feedback and just leaving the thread. So yeah, I gave up which is what they were hoping for by leaving the thread as it was. Done posting on the forums for now.

Am I overreacting? Yeah most likely.


People have a tendancy to jump down a blues throat over little comments or at least that is what I have noticed. Also how exactly do you know what they were hoping for? If it is your own interpretation, you have been offered others for why they wouldn't post in a serious thread that was giving good feedback.

As for them posting in the /hug threads in what not, those threads are easy and (for some) fun to post in, they dont have to give any valid information when they post in them.
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08/22/2012 08:26 AMPosted by Shaithiss
just because they aren't posting in the thread, doesn't mean that they have abandoned it.


DING DING DING we have a winner.

/thread
90 Night Elf Druid
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You aren't entitled to an audience with your blue overlords anytime you please.

Make your case, keep it constructive and valid, and hope for the best.

So basically do everything you didn't do here.
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i have supported both threads on my other characters, and support this one too.

Makes no sense.
100 Gnome Priest
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08/22/2012 08:30 AMPosted by Solaru
Neth is not a dev, she is a CM.


My mistake, which means the only thing she can do is pass the information along.
100 Draenei Mage
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08/22/2012 08:39 AMPosted by Healeighgee
Neth is not a dev, she is a CM.


My mistake, which means the only thing she can do is pass the information along.

Yup..here is a good Blue Post how they do that...it is a must read...

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/156383-cms-%3E-gc-%3E-devs-%3E-gc-%3E-cms/
85 Dwarf Mage
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08/22/2012 08:23 AMPosted by Belladonna
So that blue specifically said they weren't going to run away from the thread, and to continue on with our feedback. So what did we do? We continued on as he/she suggested. But what happened? He did, in fact, abandon our thread


Neth also never stated that she was going to reply at all in the threads, just because no one is responding it doesn't mean the threads are being ignored so stop being so melodramatic.
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08/22/2012 08:39 AMPosted by Healeighgee
Neth is not a dev, she is a CM.


My mistake, which means the only thing she can do is pass the information along.


I honestly would be scared to work as either because of people like the OP. Entitled and selfish. You're not overreacting madam, you're out of your mind. Your suggestion has been passed on. Why is this topic still being discussed. The previous sentence is not a question.
Community Manager
I don't mind being called out on this. I didn't abandon anything, but I did get caught up in other tasks and didn't get back to you all like I had intended. I apologize for that. It wasn't my intention at all. (Yes, I'm a community manager, not a developer (and a she just for clarity's sake).)

I've been working behind the scenes a lot lately with the team to get more information out to everyone on a variety of things as well as getting ready for the Mists of Pandaria launch, but I don't intend that to be an excuse.

A few things just to be clear on the PvP mounts and what I know.

There was a period of time in the beta in which some PvP mounts were erroneously showing that they couldn't be given/used on other characters. This was a bug that should have been corrected. That bug did not apply to the Gladiator Mount or the Rated Battleground Mount.

The decision on the Gladiator Mount or Rated Battleground Mounts hasn't changed. The developers still want these to be character specific as they apply to that particular class and season.

While I didn't respond again, I definitely did carry the feedback to the team. Other PvP mounts you get outside of those should be account-wide as it was originally intended to work that way within the beta.

That all said, I have no doubt that the developers will continue to assess whether or not this is something they want to change in the future, but this is how it's working for now.

I do appreciate everyone that took their time to share their feedback whether it was in those threads, twitter, or even via email (yes I got some.)
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