Fury of Pandaria: PvE Fury in MoP

90 Orc Warrior
17020
I haven't played a troll anything in, well, ever, but I am 99% sure it stacks with Lust.
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90 Orc Warrior
9645
They stack
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90 Orc Warrior
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Samayael perhaps you should add profession for next section. I think people wants to know what kind of profession and what benefit they will have from that profession.
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1 Tauren Shaman
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Other classes avoid stacking Berserking and Lust because they're gonna haste cap from it.

We... don't really care, haste is not great and I don't think you will cap white swing haste from it. Maybe? :/
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100 Human Warrior
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Other classes avoid stacking Berserking and Lust because they're gonna haste cap from it.

We... don't really care, haste is not great and I don't think you will cap white swing haste from it. Maybe? :/


There is no white swing haste cap. When people talk about haste capping, they mean hitting the softcap where gcd is brought to 1s. Since Warriors don't get any benefit like that, we have no cap.
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90 Orc Warrior
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Other classes avoid stacking Berserking and Lust because they're gonna haste cap from it.

We... don't really care, haste is not great and I don't think you will cap white swing haste from it. Maybe? :/


There is no white swing haste cap. When people talk about haste capping, they mean hitting the softcap where gcd is brought to 1s. Since Warriors don't get any benefit like that, we have no cap.


Exactly. Haste has unlimited near-uselessness.
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90 Tauren Warrior
15175
So just pop it during opening burst and then every three minutes after, even during Lust. Gotcha.

Thanks, guys!
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90 Worgen Warrior
8560
Just copy/pasting what I put in another thread.

Please take the following numbers with a grain of salt. They're only best guesses at the moment. Every warrior change except the 3 minute recklessness has been implemented in these numbers. The 3 minute reck hasn't shown up on the PTR yet, so I'm waiting till that happens before throwing it in. The 25% execute nerf is already hotfixed on PTR, so it is included.

http://i.imgur.com/vZpm59z.png

The left side is T14 tier bonuses at 540 ilevel with ptr enabled.
The middle is T15 Tier Bonuses + Legendary Meta at 540 ilevel with ptr enabled.
The right side is T14 Tier Bonuses at 507ish ilevel with ptr enabled.

What's important to note on the left/right side is that no rotation changes are implemented, so that's playing each spec exactly the same way we do today. Arcane is not listed as it crashes simcraft.

The "outliers" (Monk, combat rogue) at the top of the T15 list are most likely simcraft issues, not what the specs are actually doing. At least I hope.

Important notes:
SMF will still be ahead of TG, and the overall balance between the two specs didn't change significantly. Arms will be behind fury, but not as much as it used to be.

Arms has a slight advantage in the T14 sims because it actually has an updated action list, while every other spec does not. I'm not entirely sure why the updated action list is included with arms already, but arms is not actually ahead of fury.
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90 Orc Warrior
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Even after swallowing the grain of salt as requested, still hard to be thrilled about those results.
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90 Orc Warrior
18795
Fury beats arms.

And that's all I care about. Everything else is w/e. I'll miss crushing the entire raid on the charts, though. But maybe I still get to do that, I'll wait for the final PTR update then make Collision resim.
Edited by Jalopy on 2/25/2013 8:39 AM PST
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90 Orc Warrior
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Glyph of Reck decreases crit bonus by 12% now instead of 20%, still same duration increase (so 18% crit for 18 seconds versus 30% crit for 12 seconds) and the T14 4pc reduces the CD by 90 seconds, so you're sitting at a 1.5min CD on Reck with it.
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90 Orc Warrior
18795
1.5 MINUTE RECK AW SNAP
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90 Orc Warrior
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Although glyph of reck still sucks !@#. I wish they'd make it work inversely, like 40% crit for 8-10 seconds.
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90 Human Warrior
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I was expecting something better for glyph of reck...
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90 Orc Warrior
6755
02/25/2013 10:58 AMPosted by Jalopy
1.5 MINUTE RECK AW SNAP


Yes so hard to this.
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90 Tauren Warrior
15175
So, Collision mentioned Engineering will be king of the herd in 5.2, but what's the second best profession? Blacksmithing? I'm thinking about trying to level it before the patch drops (and dropping enchanting in the process), but I'm not sure.
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90 Worgen Warrior
8560
Too bad the 1.5 minute reck doesn't matter, as you'll just be waiting to use it at 2 minutes. :P

Blacksmithing is definitely #2
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90 Tauren Warrior
15175
Excellent. Thanks, Collision.
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90 Dwarf Warrior
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Hey sam can u take a look at my gear see if im doing anything wrong
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90 Orc Warrior
6755
02/26/2013 06:21 AMPosted by Smoothkiller
Hey sam can u take a look at my gear see if im doing anything wrong

DIBS.

You're over expertise cap by .34%, may be able to clean that up a little.
On your offhand sword, windsong is a better enchant than landslide.
The mastery enchant for bracers is very cheap and a damn sight better than nothing.
You're deliberately reforging into too much hit. 7.5% is enough; yes, over is better than under, but nowhere near as much as you're stacking.
Get a leg enchant. Any leg enchant. Seriously.
Darkmist vortex is terrible. Here are all of the trinkets you can get without stepping foot in anything more hardcore than LFR that kick its !@#:Lessons of the darkmaster, Relic of Xuen, Skullrender Medallion, Helmbreaker Medallion, LFR Lei Shen's Final Orders. The medallion and relic are 100% loot-RNG-free, just work up the gold or the rep+valor.
Your neck is also kind of meh. If you've the patience, exalted with the golden lotus gets you a 100% free crit+mastery neck.

Alternatively, invest in some pvp gear. It's decent compared to entry raid gear and kills some of the stuff you've got. There's a crit/exp neck, crit/mastery boots, and, until you get another piece of tier to necessitate you have four of them equipped, crit/hit gloves and crit/haste legs that are very solid.
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