LF MoP raiding guild
I'd recommend evaluating how you post and choose your guild based on your needs and desires. Saying your a ret paladin desiring to raid is a bit too simple. What hours do you want to raid? Would you mind faction transferring? What type of progression do desire? Etc. I have been reading the recruitment forum for my own recruitment needs and if the poster barely has anything to say I normally pass on replying. It just as important for a raider to have goals as it is a raiding guild to have them.
I wish you luck in your search.
I could go into an elitist rant about your professions, build, lack of experience or how god-awful-annoying it is when PVPers assume they can PVE ("PVE easy, hurk hurk, what u mean I wipe us?")... but I'll save that for a rainy day.
If you're serious about joining a competitive raid, you should prepare your toon (e.g. put on a suit and tie), fill out an application (resume) and go out and talk to the established and up-and-coming guilds on Shandris. There are 8 guilds that have cleared 8/8H, and several more forming or re-forming raid teams for MoP.
I can guarantee you most of those raids ARE looking for trials... and I can guarantee you none of them are looking for attitude or a sense of entitlement. Get your crap together and go out and look for them.
Although I am not disagreeing overall with what your saying at least give the guy a break on talents right now as a lot of people are trying out new stuff due to the pre-expansion timeframe and being a good pvper although does not guarantee that you will be great in pve they are not two different worlds.
Most people that are good at PvP can raid well if they wanted to put in the effort and time and just the same most good PvE people would do well at PvP if they put in the same effort and time.
Lastly although some top of the line guilds are going to want someone to min/max on things like professions most are going to be more concerned on how raid aware you are, how you play your class and if you are going to be a good fit for their group. Herb/Mine is certainly an odd choice though.
09/07/2012 10:42 PMPosted by MavericaceMost people that are good at PvP can raid well if they wanted to put in the effort and time and just the same most good PvE people would do well at PvP if they put in the same effort and time.
But hes a challenger *cough*
09/08/2012 12:14 AMPosted by SubrosianMost people that are good at PvP can raid well if they wanted to put in the effort and time
I agree, which is WHY I pointed out his gear, build, professions, talents and experience are questionable.Lastly although some top of the line guilds are going to want someone to min/max on things like professions...
Every kid wants a sports car. The kid who took a summer job cutting lawns to buy one REALLY WANTED it. Regardless of whether you're an app to Vodka or just looking for a casual raid, taking the time to write a detailed application, maximize your toon and explain your goals goes a long way to show you'll put in the effort to be a successful raider.
While not every guild expects (or should expect) people to min-max professions, racials, etc... it doesn't hurt to take the time to do so. If I'm someone trying to break into raiding, showing that I REALLY WANT it goes a long way to getting a raid spot.
Certainly don't disagree with any of that. I also think that kind of like applying for a job trying to get into a good raiding guild is similar. You really shouldn't be just posting and letting them find you it works a lot better by seeing what is out there and applying in person.
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