Topic Garrosh's Removal.
Keinis
Moon Guard
Keinis
90 Blood Elf Rogue
14215
I don't really like how blizzard played out Garrosh, It felt too much like they want people to like him but couldn't really give anything about him to like.

For most quests you felt like a babysitter for him trying to do your best not to have him screw up and cleaning up his messes then once you finish the quest you get to hear NPC's praise garrosh for how wonderful he is even though you did all the work.

I think the thing that always bugged me was that garrosh never seemed to face anything bad for his mistakes. Becuase the player is always there to bail him out.

I'm sick of cleaning up his messes just so he can run off and screw something else up.

Did they ever explain why Garrosh hates humans so much?
Shimaala
Moon Guard
Shimaala
86 Tauren Death Knight
14655
Edited by Shimaala on 9/24/12 5:34 PM (PDT)
Thrall wasn't a better leader, because Thrall didn't lead the orcs anywhere. He just enjoyed a period of non-progress while still being a demonic soul.
All of my wat.

09/24/2012 05:31 PMPosted by Keinis
Did they ever explain why Garrosh hates humans so much?
In summary, cockblocks to Orcish Glory.
Lannallia
Moon Guard
Lannallia
41 Blood Elf Rogue
5520
I have to wonder if they'll ever try and put a Non-Orc in charge of the Horde...and if so who they would pick...
Volkuza
Moon Guard
Volkuza
90 Troll Warlock
11815
1) Completely reasonable to want an Orc out of power from perspective of a Darkspear
2) I have no Orc characters, therefore, no attachment to the race

Vol'jin for Warchief.
Rofaldo
Moon Guard
Rofaldo
85 Human Mage
9965
Cro Threadstrong will make an excellent replacement. All the fury, but more consistent personality.
Lannallia
Moon Guard
Lannallia
41 Blood Elf Rogue
5520
How about...Lor'themar for Warchief....*hides from any impending thrown or flying objects.*
Garrtak
Moon Guard
Garrtak
90 Orc Warrior
5805
I agree with Uglukk
Garrosh was amzing... if you're an orc, if you're any other race you pretty much have to hate him.

Ah well.
Tiriél
Moon Guard
Tiriél
90 Blood Elf Priest
13110
I have never believed that Blizzard intended to keep Garrosh as the Horde Warchief.

This may sound dumb, but my primary reason for believing this is that his model is significantly less detailed and...well...it's just a poor model in general in comparison to other faction leaders. Take a look at Varian once of these days, or even Thrall, and compare Garrosh to both of those models. Or Cairne, or Sylvanas. Or Voljin.

They didn't spend much time on that model, and it shows. And I don't believe they would put out a crappy model on a character they intend to keep as a faction leader.
Garrtak
Moon Guard
Garrtak
90 Orc Warrior
5805
Chen Stormstout for Warchief?
Malakota
Moon Guard
Malakota
85 Orc Hunter
8725
Edited by Malakota on 9/24/12 8:54 PM (PDT)
1) Completely reasonable to want an Orc out of power from perspective of a Darkspear
2) I have no Orc characters, therefore, no attachment to the race

Vol'jin for Warchief.


Sometimes it feels as if, from a player perspective, Tauren and some Trolls are the only ones allowed to dislike the Warchief, IC. Even then, I feel like I'm constantly OOCly scrutinized for it.
Tiriél
Moon Guard
Tiriél
90 Blood Elf Priest
13110
09/24/2012 05:31 PMPosted by Keinis
Did they ever explain why Garrosh hates humans so much?


I always got the feeling he hates humans because it's the "cool" thing to do if you're an Orc.

No, seriously, he'd never even encountered humans in Outland but somehow developed a raaaaaging hatred of them by Northrend. And no, it was never explained so far as I know. If it was, it was in a novel I never bought.
Keinis
Moon Guard
Keinis
90 Blood Elf Rogue
14215
09/24/2012 08:39 PMPosted by Lannallia
How about...Lor'themar for Warchief....*hides from any impending thrown or flying objects.*
Who?
Rofaldo
Moon Guard
Rofaldo
85 Human Mage
9965
Lor'themar: the Ann Veal of Warcraft.
Kurze
Moon Guard
Kurze
90 Orc Warlock
11315
I always got the feeling he hates humans because it's the "cool" thing to do if you're an Orc.

No, seriously, he'd never even encountered humans in Outland but somehow developed a raaaaaging hatred of them by Northrend. And no, it was never explained so far as I know. If it was, it was in a novel I never bought.


Because Lok'tar Über Alles.

No, seriously, that's pretty much about it.
Lannallia
Moon Guard
Lannallia
41 Blood Elf Rogue
5520
09/24/2012 09:06 PMPosted by Keinis
How about...Lor'themar for Warchief....*hides from any impending thrown or flying objects.*
Who?


Regent Lord of Quel'Thalas

Or in other words...Blood Elf leader guy dude...thingy...at least he's listed as such...honestly a little hazy on leadership Hierarchy of the Elves...need to read back up on that.
Rofaldo
Moon Guard
Rofaldo
85 Human Mage
9965
What, is he funny or something?
Bruce
Moon Guard
Bruce
85 Dwarf Rogue
9035
I wouldn't mind Garrosh as much if he was a more consistent character.

Saurfang for Warchief.
Altaiea
Moon Guard
Altaiea
90 Draenei Warrior
8530
It's pretty self-explanatory. Thrall was a racist, slavery supporting, genocidal, bloodlusting coward that hid behind neutrality when convenient.


Don't forget how much he supported torture.

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