Stuck on Retrieving Character List

90 Human Warrior
4420
I am finally able to connect just as others are but I'm getting stuck on the "Retrieving Character List" portion on all servers (main server is Sargeras). If I let it sit for a little, it disconnects me.

Already tried flushing and renewing DNS, DHCP as well as deleting WTF, Cache, and Interface folders.

Edit: About every 1 in 20 tries I am able to get my character list. However, if I try to play one of them, the game will load most of the way then disconnect me.
Edited by Hordechewer on 9/27/2012 1:13 PM PDT
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90 Human Warrior
4420
Bump.

This has been going on for more than 24 hours now, even after the maintenance.
Connection log:

9/28 15:19:23.744 Login program=WoW platform=Mc64 locale=enUS
9/28 15:19:23.744 Component WoW.Mc64.16057
9/28 15:19:23.744 Component WoW.base.16057
9/28 15:19:23.744 Component WoW.enUS.16057
9/28 15:19:23.744 Component Tool.Mac.1113
9/28 15:19:23.747 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_CONNECTING result: LOGIN_OK
9/28 15:19:23.749 Connecting to 12.129.206.130:1119
9/28 15:19:24.231 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_AUTHENTICATED result: LOGIN_OK
9/28 15:19:24.304 ClientConnection Initiating: COP_CONNECT code=CSTATUS_CONNECTING
9/28 15:19:24.307 GRUNT: state: RESPONSE_CONNECTED result: LOGIN_OK
9/28 15:19:25.056 ClientConnection Completed: COP_CONNECT code=RESPONSE_CONNECTED result=TRUE
9/28 15:19:25.065 ClientConnection Initiating: COP_AUTHENTICATE code=CSTATUS_AUTHENTICATING
9/28 15:19:25.898 ClientConnection Completed: COP_AUTHENTICATE code=AUTH_OK result=TRUE
9/28 15:19:26.393 ClientConnection Initiating: COP_GET_CHARACTERS code=43
9/28 15:20:14.270 Client initiated Disconnect from 12.129.206.130
9/28 15:20:14.270 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_DISCONNECTED result: LOGIN_OK
9/28 15:20:14.270 Login program=WoW platform=Mc64 locale=enUS
9/28 15:20:14.270 Component WoW.Mc64.16057
9/28 15:20:14.270 Component WoW.base.16057
9/28 15:20:14.270 Component WoW.enUS.16057
9/28 15:20:14.270 Component Tool.Mac.1113
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Support Forum Agent
I'm curios about something I've seen. Can you post your repair-on-demand.log from /Users/Shared/Battle.net/Agent/Agent.1363/Logs?

Make sure you remove any computer/user name if there is one listed in the logs.
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90 Human Warrior
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I'm curios about something I've seen. Can you post your repair-on-demand.log from /Users/Shared/Battle.net/Agent/Agent.1363/Logs?

Make sure you remove any computer/user name if there is one listed in the logs.


Edit to remove wall of text
Edited by Hordechewer on 9/28/2012 2:58 PM PDT
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90 Human Warrior
4420
Sorry for the wall of text and thanks for the response. Here is the most recent Agent log ("Agent-20120928-173639357.log")

#-----------------------------------------------------------
# System started at 2012-09-28 21:36:39.3582
# system: MYNAME’s MacBook Pro
#-----------------------------------------------------------
21:36:39.3589 Argument[0]: '/Users/Shared/Battle.net/Agent/Agent.1363/Agent.app/Contents/MacOS/Agent'
21:36:39.3590 Argument[1]: '--locale=enUS'
21:36:39.3691 Database Insert: /option
21:36:39.3694 Database Insert: /agent
21:36:39.3694 Database Insert: /
21:36:39.3695 Database Insert: /version
21:36:39.3695 Database Insert: /repair
21:36:39.3695 Database Insert: /update
21:36:39.3926 Database Insert: /game/s2_enus
21:36:39.3931 Database Insert: /game/s2_engb
21:36:39.3931 Database Insert: /install
21:36:39.4052 Database Insert: /game/wow_enus
21:36:39.4054 Database Insert: /gamesession
21:36:39.4055 Database Insert: /agent/download
21:36:39.4055 Database Insert: /backfill
21:36:39.4055 Database Insert: /game
21:36:39.4055 Database Insert: /createshortcut
21:36:39.4062 Database Insert: /game/diablo3_enus
21:36:39.4064 Database Insert: /game/client
21:36:39.4064 Database Insert: /spawned
21:36:39.4073 Database Insert: /agent/download
21:36:39.4073 Database Insert: /register
21:36:39.4112 Initialize HttpProtocol Server Called.
21:36:39.4117 Agent started on port #6881
21:36:39.4117 Registered Periodic Event: "auth validation event" with a resolution of 10000 and a start delay of 10000
21:36:39.4117 Registered Event: "shutdown event"
21:36:39.4117 Registered Event: "database flush event"
21:36:39.5564 Request Issued: GET /agent

21:36:39.5565 Response: 200
{
"update" : {},
"install" : {},
"backfill" : {},
"pid" : 4010.000000,
"state" : 1007.000000,
"version" : "1.2.1.1363",
"type" : "retail",
"authorization" : "EF356F952C4D8FD7618E450AC56CD321"
}
21:36:39.6363 Request Issued: GET /agent

21:36:39.6364 Response: 200
{
"update" : {},
"install" : {},
"backfill" : {},
"pid" : 4010.000000,
"state" : 1007.000000,
"version" : "1.2.1.1363",
"type" : "retail",
"authorization" : "421A47C6ABFBF8888C67FC628B1655BA"
}
21:36:39.6383 Request Issued: GET /game/client

21:36:39.6387 Response: 200
{
"install_dir" : "/Users/Shared/Battle.net/Client",
"launch_path" : "/Users/Shared/Battle.net/Client/Blizzard Launcher.app",
"current_version" : 0.000000,
"supports_multibox" : false,
"switcher" : false,
"use_sparse" : false,
"operations" : [],
"playable" : true,
"ever_playable" : true,
"last_played" : 0.000000,
"update_progress" : 0.000000,
"needs_rebase" : false,
"product" : "Clnt",
"patch_url" : "http://enUS.patch.battle.net:1119/patch",
"config_url" : "",
"mfil_hash" : "01000000CC9FA601000000003F000000",
"torrent_hash" : "1E000000000000003F0000003F000000",
"alternate" : false,
"supports_offline" : false,
"installed_locales" : [
""
],
"patch_application_complete" : false,
"download_complete" : false,
"background_download_available" : false,
"background_download_complete" : false,
"perform_ogg_to_wav" : false,
"baseline" : "",
"active_data_sets" : [
"base",
"OSX",
""
]
}
21:36:39.6394 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /gamesession/client
21:36:39.6394 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:39.6407 Request Issued: POST /gamesession
{
"uid" : "client",
"launch_arguments" : [
"--gamepath=/Applications/World of Warcraft/",
"--game=wow_enus"
]
}
21:36:39.6408 Agent::Product::StartSession() - Begin Waiting
21:36:39.6408 Agent::Product::StartSession() - End Waiting
21:36:39.7689 Launching /Users/Shared/Battle.net/Client/Blizzard Launcher.app w/ --gamepath=/Applications/World of Warcraft/
--game=wow_enus
**********************************************
21:36:39.8687 Database Insert: /gamesession/client
21:36:39.8687 Database Insert: /gamesession/client/1
21:36:39.8687 Response: 200
{
"response_uri" : "/gamesession/client"
}
21:36:40.2925 Request Issued: GET /agent

21:36:40.2926 Response: 200
{
"update" : {},
"install" : {},
"backfill" : {},
"pid" : 4010.000000,
"state" : 1004.000000,
"playable" : true,
"version" : "1.2.1.1363",
"type" : "retail",
"authorization" : "E435D09B759080756BA2BE4F21164E5A"
}
21:36:40.3736 Request Issued: GET /agent

21:36:40.3736 Response: 200
{
"update" : {},
"install" : {},
"backfill" : {},
"pid" : 4010.000000,
"state" : 1004.000000,
"playable" : true,
"version" : "1.2.1.1363",
"type" : "retail",
"authorization" : "65A1F0276BFE7FDE7B98FCE1666E9C83"
}
21:36:40.3766 Request Issued: GET /game/client

21:36:40.5211 GameSession: Stopped BringToFront thread.21:36:40.5214 Response: 200
{
"install_dir" : "/Users/Shared/Battle.net/Client",
"launch_path" : "/Users/Shared/Battle.net/Client/Blizzard Launcher.app",
"current_version" : 0.000000,
"supports_multibox" : false,
"switcher" : false,
"use_sparse" : false,
"operations" : [],
"playable" : true,
"ever_playable" : true,
"last_played" : 0.000000,
"update_progress" : 0.000000,
"needs_rebase" : false,
"product" : "Clnt",
"patch_url" : "http://enUS.patch.battle.net:1119/patch",
"config_url" : "",
"mfil_hash" : "01000000CC9FA601000000003F000000",
"torrent_hash" : "1E000000000000003F0000003F000000",
"alternate" : false,
"supports_offline" : false,
"installed_locales" : [
""
],
"patch_application_complete" : false,
"download_complete" : false,
"background_download_available" : false,
"background_download_complete" : false,
"perform_ogg_to_wav" : false,
"baseline" : "",
"active_data_sets" : [
"base",
"OSX",
""
]
}
21:36:40.5234 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /game/wow_ptr_enus
21:36:40.5234 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5246 Request Issued: GET /game/wow_enus

21:36:40.5256 Response: 200
{
"install_dir" : "/Applications/World of Warcraft",
"launch_path" : "/Applications/World of Warcraft/World of Warcraft.app",
"selected_locale" : "enUS",
"selected_asset_locale" : "enUS",
"current_version" : 16057.000000,
"supports_multibox" : true,
"switcher" : false,
"use_sparse" : true,
"operations" : [],
"playable" : true,
"ever_playable" : true,
"last_played" : 0.000000,
"update_progress" : 1.000000,
"needs_rebase" : false,
"product" : "WoW",
"patch_url" : "http://enUS.patch.battle.net:1119/patch",
"config_url" : "http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod-retail/NA/config_retail_E2734CF823791B63580F54155F95A382.xml",
"mfil_hash" : "E408DC5E5B88C0A2475DB594F14570D4",
"torrent_hash" : "CA41B3A24701A133A5E830AC0AD4BF50",
"alternate" : false,
"supports_offline" : false,
"installed_locales" : [
"enUS"
],
"display_locales" : [
"enUS",
"esMX",
"ptBR"
],
"patch_application_complete" : true,
"download_complete" : true,
"background_download_available" : false,
"background_download_complete" : false,
"perform_ogg_to_wav" : false,
"baseline" : "",
"active_data_sets" : [
"EXP1",
"EXP2",
"EXP3",
"EXP4",
"enUS",
"base",
"OSX"
]
}
21:36:40.5268 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /install/wow_enus
21:36:40.5268 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5279 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /update/wow_enus
21:36:40.5279 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5290 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /gamesession/wow_enus
21:36:40.5290 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5301 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: DELETE - /backfill/wow_enus
21:36:40.5301 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5336 Request Issued: POST /install
{
"uid" : "wow_enus",
"install_dir" : "/Applications/World of Warcraft/"
}
21:36:40.5337 Firing Event: "database flush event"
21:36:40.5337 Response: 200
{}
21:36:40.5346 Handle Event: "database flush event"
21:36:40.5402 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /game/wow_ptr_enus
21:36:40.5402 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5415 Request Issued: GET /game/wow_enus

21:36:40.5421 Response: 200
{
"install_dir" : "/Applications/World of Warcraft",
"launch_path" : "/Applications/World of Warcraft/World of Warcraft.app",
"selected_locale" : "enUS",
"selected_asset_locale" : "enUS",
"current_version" : 16057.000000,
"supports_multibox" : true,
"switcher" : false,
"use_sparse" : true,
"operations" : [],
"playable" : true,
"ever_playable" : true,
"last_played" : 0.000000,
"update_progress" : 1.000000,
"needs_rebase" : false,
"product" : "WoW",
"patch_url" : "http://enUS.patch.battle.net:1119/patch",
"config_url" : "http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod-retail/NA/config_retail_E2734CF823791B63580F54155F95A382.xml",
"mfil_hash" : "E408DC5E5B88C0A2475DB594F14570D4",
"torrent_hash" : "CA41B3A24701A133A5E830AC0AD4BF50",
"alternate" : false,
"supports_offline" : false,
"installed_locales" : [
"enUS"
],
"display_locales" : [
"enUS",
"esMX",
"ptBR"
],
"patch_application_complete" : true,
"download_complete" : true,
"background_download_available" : false,
"background_download_complete" : false,
"perform_ogg_to_wav" : false,
"baseline" : "",
"active_data_sets" : [
"EXP1",
"EXP2",
"EXP3",
"EXP4",
"enUS",
"base",
"OSX"
]
}
21:36:40.5427 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /install/wow_enus
21:36:40.5427 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5438 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /update/wow_enus
21:36:40.5438 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5449 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: GET - /gamesession/wow_enus
21:36:40.5449 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.5461 Request Issued to non-existent Uri: DELETE - /backfill/wow_enus
21:36:40.5461 Response: 404
(null)
21:36:40.6263 Request Issued: GET /agent

21:36:40.6263 Response: 200
{
"update" : {},
"install" : {},
"backfill" : {},
"pid" : 4010.000000,
"state" : 1004.000000,
"playable" : true,
"version" : "1.2.1.1363",
"type" : "retail",
"authorization" : "65A1F0276BFE7FDE7B98FCE1666E9C83"
}
21:36:40.6811 Request Issued: POST /update
{"uid":"client"}
21:36:40.6811 Database Insert: /update/client
21:36:40.6934 Response: 200
{
"response_uri" : "/update/client",
"result_uri" : "/game/client"
}
21:36:40.6948 Request Issued: GET /update/client

21:36:40.6949 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000
}
21:36:40.7220 Request Issued: GET /update/client

21:36:40.7220 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000
}
21:36:40.7743 Request Issued: GET /update/client

21:36:40.7744 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000
}
21:36:40.8527 Firing Event: "database flush event"
21:36:40.8531 Handle Event: "database flush event"
21:36:40.8762 Request Issued: GET /update/client

21:36:40.8762 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1004.000000,
"playable" : true
}
21:36:40.8798 Request Issued: POST /version
{
"uid":"wow_enus"
}

21:36:40.8798 Database Insert: /version/wow_enus
21:36:40.8799 Response: 200
{
"response_uri" : "/version/wow_enus"
}
21:36:40.8808 Request Issued: GET /version/wow_enus

21:36:40.8808 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000,
"local_version" : "5.0.5.16057",
"playable" : true,
"needs_rebase" : false
}
21:36:40.9073 Request Issued: GET /version/wow_enus

21:36:40.9074 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000,
"local_version" : "5.0.5.16057",
"playable" : true,
"needs_rebase" : false
}
21:36:40.9592 Request Issued: GET /version/wow_enus

21:36:40.9593 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000,
"local_version" : "5.0.5.16057",
"playable" : true,
"needs_rebase" : false
}
21:36:41.0615 Request Issued: GET /version/wow_enus

21:36:41.0616 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000,
"local_version" : "5.0.5.16057",
"playable" : true,
"needs_rebase" : false
}
21:36:41.2637 Request Issued: GET /version/wow_enus

21:36:41.2637 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1007.000000,
"local_version" : "5.0.5.16057",
"playable" : true,
"needs_rebase" : false
}
21:36:41.5365 Firing Event: "database flush event"
21:36:41.5369 Handle Event: "database flush event"
21:36:41.6656 Request Issued: GET /version/wow_enus

21:36:41.6656 Response: 200
{
"state" : 1004.000000,
"local_version" : "5.0.5.16057",
"playable" : true,
"needs_rebase" : false
}
21:36:43.1224 Request Issued: POST /gamesession
{"uid":"wow_enus","run64bit":true}
21:36:43.1224 Agent::Product::StartSession() - Begin Waiting
21:36:43.1224 Agent::Product::StartSession() - End Waiting
21:36:44.1448 Launching /Applications/World of Warcraft/World of Warcraft-64.app w/ -launch
-uid
wow_enus
**********************************************
21:36:44.2443 Database Insert: /gamesession/wow_enus
21:36:44.2444 Database Insert: /gamesession/wow_enus/1
21:36:44.2444 Response: 200
{
"response_uri" : "/gamesession/wow_enus"
}
21:36:44.2460 Request Issued: DELETE /update/client
21:36:44.2460 Database Remove: /update/client
21:36:44.2461 Queue 'async_task' Resource for delete
21:36:44.2461 Response: 200
{}
21:36:44.2466 Deferred delete of 'async_task' Resource
21:36:44.2472 Request Issued: GET /gamesession/wow_enus

21:36:44.2488 Response: 200
{
"1" : {
"pid" : 4028.000000,
"launch_path" : "/Applications/World of Warcraft/World of Warcraft-64.app",
"launch_arguments" : "-launch\n-uid\nwow_enus"
}
}
21:36:49.4595 Handle Event: "auth validation event"
21:36:49.4596 Registered Periodic Event: "shutdown event" with a resolution of 10000 and a start delay of 10000
21:36:59.4798 Handle Event: "shutdown event"
21:36:59.4798 Handle Event: "auth validation event"
21:36:59.5795 Agent is shutting down
21:36:59.5812 Firing Event: "database flush event"
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /option
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /gamesession/client
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /gamesession/client/1
21:36:59.5885 Queue 'default' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /agent
21:36:59.5885 Queue 'download' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /register
21:36:59.5885 Queue 'registerroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /game
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /game/diablo3_enus
21:36:59.5885 Queue 'game' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5885 Database Remove: /game/wow_enus
21:36:59.5885 Queue 'game' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /game/client
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'game' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /game/s2_enus
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'game' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /game/s2_engb
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'default' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'game' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'download' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'gameroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'registerroot' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /repair
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'game' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'repairroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'agentroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /gamesession
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /gamesession/wow_enus
21:36:59.5886 Database Remove: /gamesession/wow_enus/1
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'game' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'default' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'game' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'composite' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5886 Deferred delete of 'game' Resource
21:36:59.5886 Queue 'composite' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Queue 'gamesessionroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Database Remove: /backfill
21:36:59.5887 Queue 'backfillroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Deferred delete of 'game' Resource
21:36:59.5887 Database Remove: /spawned
21:36:59.5887 Queue 'spawnedroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Queue 'optionroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Database Remove: /version
21:36:59.5887 Database Remove: /version/wow_enus
21:36:59.5887 Deferred delete of 'gameroot' Resource
21:36:59.5887 Queue 'async_task' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Deferred delete of 'repairroot' Resource
21:36:59.5887 Queue 'versionroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5887 Deferred delete of 'agentroot' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Database Remove: /update
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'default' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Queue 'updateroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'composite' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Database Remove: /createshortcut
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'composite' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Queue 'createshortcut' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'gamesessionroot' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Database Remove: /install
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'backfillroot' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Queue 'installroot' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'spawnedroot' Resource
21:36:59.5888 Queue 'root' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5888 Deferred delete of 'optionroot' Resource
21:36:59.5889 Database Remove: /agent/download
21:36:59.5889 Deferred delete of 'async_task' Resource
21:36:59.5889 Queue 'download' Resource for delete
21:36:59.5889 Deleting remaining resources
21:36:59.5890 Deferred delete of 'versionroot' Resource
21:36:59.5890 Deferred delete of 'updateroot' Resource
21:36:59.5890 Deferred delete of 'createshortcut' Resource
21:36:59.5890 Deferred delete of 'installroot' Resource
21:36:59.5890 Deferred delete of 'root' Resource
21:36:59.5890 Deferred delete of 'download' Resource
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There goes my theory heh. I know some users were having issues due to repair on demand kicking in and always attempting to repair the same files.

Can we rebuild all game caches? This includes more files than what you originally deleted.

    1. Navigate to /Applications/World of Warcraft
    2. Move the WTF, Cache and Interface folders to the desktop
    3. Now go into the Data folder and delete the Cache folder
    4. Navigate to /Users/Shared and delete the Battle.net folder
    5. Launch the World of Warcraft Launcher. Let all updates apply and hit Play when Game is up to date is displayed.
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90 Human Warrior
4420
There goes my theory heh. I know some users were having issues due to repair on demand kicking in and always attempting to repair the same files.

Can we rebuild all game caches? This includes more files than what you originally deleted.

    1. Navigate to /Applications/World of Warcraft
    2. Move the WTF, Cache and Interface folders to the desktop
    3. Now go into the Data folder and delete the Cache folder
    4. Navigate to /Users/Shared and delete the Battle.net folder
    5. Launch the World of Warcraft Launcher. Let all updates apply and hit Play when Game is up to date is displayed.


Just finished updating and I'm still having the same issue. I'll probably just try reinstalling the whole thing overnight If I can't figure this out. The weird thing is, it's been off and on (though mostly on). Earlier today at around 10am EST I was able to play like normal. The problem returned when I tried to log in at around 4pm.

Edit: I did find an older repair log from last month:

#-----------------------------------------------------------
# System started at 2012-08-01 04:45:28.1282
# system: MYNAME’s MacBook Pro
#-----------------------------------------------------------
04:45:41.9632 Detected Mopaq header error: offset = 0, length = 611
04:45:41.9632 Could not repair because the storage file is readonly.
Edited by Hordechewer on 9/28/2012 2:59 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
4625
Im having same problem.
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6 Troll Warlock
0
Having the same problem. Anything I can do to fix this on my end or anything I should copy and paste into here so someone can possibly see a potential issue as I wouldn't know what I'm looking for?
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