09/27/2012 07:14 PMThis is clearly favortism to older players! I pay as much money a month as they do! I have to buy the exspansions just like they do, so why should I be penalized?
Posted by Hsun
I don't understand how this is even an issue. You can't buy the highest level flying until you have 5000 gold... is that unfair, too? Just because it exists doesn't mean you have to do it immediately. The traveler's tundra wooly mammoth or whatever it's called is 15,000 gold. As far as I know, you could technically buy it at level 20, when you learned riding. So does that need a level cap, too, just because a new player can't afford it? Not everything needs to be handed to someone just because they pay the same subscription as everyone else. If your argument were a legitimate one, everything in the game would need to be dirt-cheap so that everyone could buy everything as soon as it were possible. That would be a really terrible system.
09/27/2012 07:21 PMIf it's account wide then why not make it level 90?
Posted by Brehmis
Because I don't want to have to level up all of my characters to 90 in order to do pet battles. I can see that you're not interested in account-wide things, but I am. I have limited time to play, and the ability to have things account wide frees up more time for me to play alts. If I have to be level 90 in order to use pet battles, then I'm not going to play those alts very much, which I feel like defeats the whole purpose of what they're trying to do. I don't find it "fun" to be tied to one character. Just because YOU do, doesn't mean everyone does.
I've been playing this game since release and have probably tens of thousands of hours and more than 200+ characters created and deleted over the course of 3 different accounts, and you know what I don't have nor have ever had a single character at max level. The reason being that I play every character as their own entity.
Please Blizzard don't assume everyone wants to play Wow as one giant character
Please don't assume that everyone wants to play every character like it's a completely separate one, and has the time/wants to go through the process of leveling and collecting everything they want to on every single character.
Instead of making a rediculous price, why not put a level cap on it?
The price *is* the cap. Even if it were bumped up to say, level 30 or even 50, who's to say a new player would have the gold for it then? It's very quick to level if you have the time, even as a new player, but it's more difficult to know how to spend your money wisely. Having non-essential things in the game be expensive has always been a successful way of telling players, "You are not ready for this yet." People have always been able to figure out ways to get the money, or have realized they can do without that particular thing for the time being. I like to give the new players the benefit of the doubt and assume they're not as abysmally stupid as you are all making them out to be... I really don't think someone would quit because they would see that something they could *possibly* buy is currently out of their price range. The first time I played, when mounts were, what, 100g? I think I had something like 10 when I hit the level where I could buy it. I didn't quit, I just kept playing doing what I was having fun doing, stopped spending gold on anything I felt like I didn't absolutely *need*, and eventually, when I got the money, I went back and bought the thing I wanted. I am not trying to be like, "Oh, you guys don't understand how much things used to cost!" I am just using this as an example because it was my experience. I would feel the same way now... if I saw pet battles at level 5, and I only had 5g not 100, I would do the same thing... keep playing until I could go back and get it.
What I find bizarre are the suggestions that, because some super new players leveling their first toon might have trouble getting that much gold for a little while, the level cap should be raised so they dont even have the chance of getting the gold and doing the pet battles at 5.
This. Everyone is saying they feel excluded, so raise the level requirement. By doing that, you're just excluding all the new players who *do* figure out how to get gold quickly. I'd rather have a gold cap than a level cap for just about anything.
While I would google it, a lot of people wouldn't.. I know for a fact one of my friends wouldn't. The idea of doing research for a game just doesn't make sense to him.
You don't have to turn to outside sources. It's not difficult to take a look at the auction house and see what kinds of things are selling for a lot. If you can figure out how to take a profession and start leveling it without turning to outside sources, then you can figure out how to sell your profession mats without turning to outside sources.
Blue commented that the Pet battles are supposed to be a fun thing...unless you are a level 10 new player you can t "have fun" with pet battles because you are supposed to level and grind up to in essence "spend time in game" to achieve your "other" objectives. Personally I think it is stupid.
If you aren't having fun in this game long enough to make 95g, this is not the game for you. If the only thing that makes it fun is the pet battle mini-game, there are other games out there for you that you will enjoy more. To call leveling "grinding" is just kind of silly... that's one of the main focuses of the game, and if you don't enjoy it, or you don't enjoy running dungeons (both of which will get you 95 gold pretty easily if you don't spend it on things you don't need) then you are never going to really enjoy this game, and why are you paying for a game you don't like?
Too high though, i mean really, why not 10g? a NEW player wont make that until they are over level 20 easily
This is the only argument I've seen in this thread that makes sense. They could easily lower it and still have it be pretty inaccessible for brand new players.
09/28/2012 06:49 AMThe reason why I can do pet battles with my Alliance alts is because I bought it on my Tauren Warrior here.
Posted by Tigore
I bought it on this character, but I didn't have to buy it again for my alliance alts. If you do, for some reason, it's a bug and you should put in a ticket about it.
09/28/2012 07:52 AMYou do realize someone just coming into the game doesn't know that there are sites out there to look at,
Posted by Veredea
This apparently is surprising to a lot of people, but most people who can figure out how to play an MMO can also figure out how to use the google. There are a lot of things I don't know about this game. The first time someone said "DPS" I had to google it. And then I had to google it some more, because I didn't understand what it could possibly mean that someone wanted a "damage per second" in their group. Doesn't every weapon have damage per second? Of course, now they tell you if you're a DPS class in your talents, so that's a non-issue, but the point remains. When I don't understand game-related things, I just google them. The recurring theme I keep seeing in this thread, as someone else has pointed out, is that "new players are stupid." They're not. They may not understand all the things in the game right away, but they can figure it out. Everyone else did. You guys are not giving the "noobs" credit for being actual people with brains.
09/28/2012 08:14 AMIf you don't know that there are sites with the, you most likely wont be looking for them,
Posted by Samyaza
Again, this is you treating people like they are stupid. Do you NEVER google ANYTHING just because you don't know whether or not there's a site for it?
09/28/2012 08:39 AMIts account wide, this is a dumb statement. Go buy it on your higher level toon.
Posted by Samyaza
If it is account wide, but there is a level-requirement, now the question is: does buying it on a high level alt make it accessible on an alt below the level requirement? My mounts are account wide, but my level 12 characters still can't use them.
Used to be a time when the game was open for people to play as they wished.
See above comment about purchasing riding/flying skills. This is the same thing as not having the gold to purchase the wooly mammoth at level 20.
I am not against lowering the cost of pet battles. I think probably something like 25g would be enough to keep the really new players away from it until they understood what they were doing. I *am* against all the terrible reasons people are citing for wanting the price tag lowered.