Any other healers DPSing in Heroic LFD

90 Human Warrior
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out of sheer boredom? I'm getting in with groups with an average ilvl of 341 and it feels like we outgear it. Avoidable damage doesn't do much damage at all, dispels having an 8 second CD means there aren't many debuffs and when they do go out most of them aren't worth the mana cost to dispel.

Healing feels a lot dumber.
Edited by Arland on 9/29/2012 6:37 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Priest
13110
You have mana to DPS?

LOL!
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90 Human Warrior
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Use CDs and don't heal dps just because they're at 4/5 of maximum HP.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
13110
09/29/2012 07:10 PMPosted by Arland
Use CDs and don't heal dps just because they're at 4/5 of maximum HP.


LOLOLOLOLOL
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90 Blood Elf Priest
13110
09/29/2012 08:01 PMPosted by Styln
yea if the group isn't full of retards who sit in every source of damage known to man


I swear I got a Warlock with a death wish last night. Seriously found everything he could possibly stand in. Everything.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
12935
I find I end up dpsing on most boss fights, so little damage going out if people avoid standing in the bad.
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96 Night Elf Druid
13900
Funny how you post on your warrior.
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90 Gnome Priest
13500
Am I the only one having a tough time healing some of these then? Especially the trash before the last boss in Heroic Shadow Pan I've been having to use my CDs every trash pull. It's not undoable but I definitely have to pay special attention and if I get careless the group wipes.
Edited by Pinkipie on 9/29/2012 10:10 PM PDT
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90 Human Hunter
5610
I like Ook Ook.

because

I usually beat at least 1 (impaired) DPS if I pop AW + DF + HA and empty my mana bar spamming Denounce + HShock + Harsh Words.

Sometimes the tank stands in a Ground Pound or a barrel. I get very angry at him for this, because he cost me a lot of DPS. Damn it, tank! I'm busy!

Now otoh if I'm on my Resto Shaman... Then I make an objective evaluation between putting myself through the joy of slowly childbirthing out Lightning Bolts, or doing /sleep and tabbing out to read Twitter until I hear Ook's death noise.

Usually Twitter wins.
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100 Night Elf Priest
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I've dps'd every heroic I've done thus far, and beaten at least a few actual dps. :)
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90 Human Hunter
5610
I mean, to be fair, these dungeons are consciously designed to be more-or-less faceroll. Devs have been candid about this.

@Pinki no you're not crazy, I mean some healers are just more confident balancing swapping GCDs between nukes and heals and sensing when it's safe and when it's not. Also, some pulls you do have to behave yourself.

It's also your group, I mean good DPS tends to be like a good healer — no one notices. Bad DPS is like a bad healer — you really notice. Same with tanks, I guess.

How well the rest of your group is quietly doing their job can really change these dungeons up since they have a lot of big, bold, simplistic PASS | FAIL mechanics where FAIL hurts pretty bad but PASS is quite easy if you make any effort at all to be aware.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
13110
The biggest thing for me is that I feel like my spells just do not hit for nearly enough. Greater Heal, especially, makes me sad. It feels like a drop in a barrel, especially when tanks are getting their faces punched in.
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90 Gnome Priest
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09/29/2012 10:40 PMPosted by Tiriél
The biggest thing for me is that I feel like my spells just do not hit for nearly enough. Greater Heal, especially, makes me sad. It feels like a drop in a barrel, especially when tanks are getting their faces punched in.


Greater Heal rocks with Inner Focus but other wise I feel like it does very little.
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100 Blood Elf Priest
12030
Haven't hit 90 on my healer (I refuse to go through this again on a priest).

I do, however, find myself doing an awful lot of healing on my DPS character. From my perspective, tanks are getting rocked and healers are burning mana at an alarming rate.
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90 Draenei Priest
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I do perfectly well (can even zone out) in most heroics but yeah that H shado-pan trash before the last boss can be brutal. I am usually fine sneaking in a drink between pulls in every other run, but with that one I am constantly drinking. So much in fact, that I got yelled at by a huntard today who told me to buy some effing spirit gear and run cata lfr. I mean, really? Is it that hard to stand there for 15 seconds and flick the cheeto flakes off your shirt so we don't have to do a corpse run when the tank pulls again?
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90 Human Hunter
5610
09/29/2012 11:03 PMPosted by Kaels
I do, however, find myself doing an awful lot of healing on my DPS character.
For real, it's kind of amazing. Pulled groups through a lot of bosses as SPriest and Balance after seeing heals die or OOM.

Not so great results on Elemental in those situations, but you know... Shaman. :p
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09/29/2012 11:44 PMPosted by Cole
I do, however, find myself doing an awful lot of healing on my DPS character.
For real, it's kind of amazing. Pulled groups through a lot of bosses as SPriest and Balance after seeing heals die or OOM.

Not so great results on Elemental in those situations, but you know... Shaman. :p


you kidding? Ancestral guidance is AMAZING for that, Granted it doesn't last long but still i've seen horrific numbers come from that.
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90 Human Hunter
5610
09/30/2012 07:51 AMPosted by Serelina
you kidding? Ancestral guidance is AMAZING for that, Granted it doesn't last long but still i've seen horrific numbers come from that.
Yeah that's effective when it's available, but it's usually massive overkill for the duration and once it runs out you're rather hosed again. Good for pulling groups through short intense phases where you just need that extra 10%, though.

For the obscene mana cost Surge doesn't deliver well while trying to prop people up, mostly because Elemental relies on actively casting its sluggish nuke in order to get mana back — meaning you can't be healing people, so you fall behind, needing more Surges... vicious cycle.

The toolset just feels a lot weaker. Terrible at multitasking unless the damage pattern supports Healing Rain instead of spot nukes. Healing Stream is like... one extra discount Surge every 30 seconds. Kind of underwhelming.

On SPriest you've got VT giving you infinite mana or close, plus Shadowfiend and Hymn to back you up. Plus your DPS is more granular, letting you keep chipping away at stuff while healing, and your heals/absorbs can operate in parallel to you. Then you've even got Vampiric Embrace on top of it all.

On Balance you can exploit Astral Communion for near-infinite Healing Touches and Rejuvs with fat Haste bonuses, and again keep a lot of your DPS going while healing, plus you have Innervate on top of it all, and then Tranquility and if you took it Nature's Vigil or Heart.

Elemental is pretty strong relative to being, say, a Rogue whose healer just went down. It just feels a lot weaker to me compared to the other offspec superheroes of 5.0. :p It works fine if you're just escorting a tank who needs occasional offheals, but it collapses under sustained "omgwtf" pressure.
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