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I just posted this in the Paladin forums, but I'm not sure how good that'll do...I haven't seen any updated posts about this so I've been really curious. Just hit 90 last night, been healing a few heroics, but I feel I need to have some of my gear reforged.
What is the stat priority for healing heroics and raids now? Back in Cata I always played:
Spirit>Haste>Mastery>Crit, but it seems a lot of the gear now has Crit and Mastery.
What are you guys using as your stat priorities for heroics & getting ready for raids? Thanks :)
Hello, fellow Shattered Hand paladin :)
I think it depends on what you are doing, and what Talents you have chosen. I haven't made my own decisions yet, but it looks to me like Mastery is a good choice, regardless of activity or role.
It's likely that I will push Mastery, then Crit, at least initially, but I do things in a different way, so ymmv.
You said heroics and raids - what do you think you will be doing primarily in raids?
For me, I want to go spirit > haste > mastery > crit. Once I get my holy light/divine light down to a 2 second cast time, I plan on spirit > mastery > crit > haste.
However, I am finding it takes a lot of haste rating to even shave a tenth of a second off you cast time. I am sitting at around a 2.2 second cast time and it makes healing oh so slow. It is making me realize how dependent I am on having casting speed buff available.
Edited by Manndragorra on 10/1/2012 11:56 AM PDT
I was thinking about getting haste to 2025, than going into mastery then crit. I find in heroics I have to use FoL a lot because I don't have enough time for a DL or HL without the holy shock proc. So I def want to get some haste to help out with that.
For me personally, I was getting irritated with the looong cast times I now have. I was also having a ton of trouble with going OOM halfway through each boss fight. So I reforged every piece of my gear to Spirit and Haste. It's definitely a lot better now, but I'm thinking I'm just not used to being undergeared. It will get better, I hope.
Edited by Tealite on 10/1/2012 6:45 PM PDT
In my experience, Haste has more value in 5-man PuG's, and also if you are a reactionary healer, in general.
If you are a proactive healer, then Haste has less value, overall.
Even being a proactive healer, I like cast times no higher than 2 seconds. If I am a raider, that's slightly under 2 seconds with the Haste buff, if not, it's 2 seconds from gear/Seal. I don't personally stack any more Haste than that, if I can help it.
If you are a reactionary healer, Pally (and there is nothing wrong or bad about that, it's just a different style), then I would push Haste to your comfort level, and then Crit. I didn't say Spirit because all but 2 pieces of your gear already has it, so it's kind of moot.
Spirit does seem to be our best stat right now, followed by intellect, but the other 3 give us some interesting choices. With how strained our mana is right now, haste will give us significant burst healing, but very little in the way of sustained healing, which is really the key to choosing your secondary stat priority. Spirit>Intellect>the rest is probably a good rule of thumb to use, within reason of course. After that, if you need burst healing, definitely go haste, but if you are running oom at all, drop your haste for either mastery or crit. Mastery is definitely going to be better for tank healing, and crit for raid healing (especially in 25s). So, my advice is to prioritize based on what you need. Keep in mind that its not a bad idea to reforge specifically for the boss you're progressing on.
Edit: It's also not a bad idea to balance your haste, mastery and crit.
Edited by Masochism on 10/2/2012 7:36 AM PDT
I actually support haste to 2025 for a couple of reasons (well two main reasons)
1. Haste at 2025 gives us an extra tick on Sacred Shield per the haste breakpoints over on Totemspot.
2. Having no haste, while good in raids with very specific roles, is very poor otherwise. Getting haste up to 2025 at least gives some comfort room. Right now, when you see a tank get hit for 50% of his health in one GCD, you're essentially screwed with no haste. At least with some haste, albeit just a little bit, you see some noticeable gains.
My stat priority
Int = Spirit > Haste (to 2025) > Mastery > Crit > Haste (after 2025)
You should be gemming all Spirit as much as possible, but taking socket bonuses, and then taking a static Int with Spirit proc trink (or main regen trink like Price of Progress).
You need Int for throughput, bottom line. There are many times where you can be healing heavy and just seem like you can't keep up with the damage regardless of how many big heals are out (Shadow-Pan Monestary says hello). That is a lack if Intellect.
Edited by Adornus on 10/2/2012 8:21 AM PDT
(main regen trink like Price of Progress)
It may just be me, but the mana return on that trinket is very, very unimpressive. The ICD results in you getting about 1 tick a minute. Over a 4 minute boss fight even with eternal flame rolling on everyone I was netting only about 20k mana returned. Hell over the course of an entire Gates of the Setting Sun that trinket netted me ~120k mana.
Personally, I've gone haste to a 2.1 second cast as I find that to be the most comfortable and stacking spirit/haste or spirit/mastery gems with the spirit meta. After that haste point I've gone mastery.
Sitting at 8.6k spirit without food/flasks and I can finish damn near any dungeon pull and most bosses at 75%+ mana without CDs (barring dps who are doing a phenomenal job of being bads and standing in all the pretty colors).
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