You really don't.10/07/2012 07:41 AMPosted by DaydraInfact, I work harder than those with tons of Alts with all professions.
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10/07/2012 04:46 AMPosted by PurrfektYou can grow them at your farm. Not sure how/if it is better than trying to get them as drops.
+1000 internetz.They are going to make Spirits / Motes either BoA or BoE later on in the Expansion, they just wanted profession perks and such to be more centralized to characters earlier on in the expansion, so that people with 1 main and 10 crafter alts wouldn't effortlessly have an advantage over people with 1 main and no crafter alts, which was the situation during early Cata.
You can still have this advantage, if you're willing to devote significant amounts of time to the process on each alt, which you yourself acknowledged was a possibility, albeit a costly one.
If your main has a profession that can't do anything with Spirits, then I'd suggest just trading them in at your faction's main City in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms for something you can use or sell.
Why SHOULDN'T a person with 10 alts and every profession have a slight advantage. I personally have every profession maxed (missing 3 to 600 now) and 9 85+ with a 74 and a fresh Monk. The time i have put into accomplishing this, as well as the time spent on far too many professions should MORE than earn me the right to be able to make cross-profession materials for my alts, not the other way around.
The game needs to stop rewarding the lazy.
10/05/2012 07:47 AMPosted by ElementalismI would LOVE to have a tiger staff, but I simply cannot work out any way I could realistically make one beside leveling that character and farming motes with it.
My sights on the 476 caster staff. Rather than lvl up the Druid, I took up inscription on my lock. Because I want that damn staff. There is nothing lazy about any of this. Infact, I work harder than those with tons of Alts with all professions.
All I truly hope for is that Blizzard doesn't leave my professions on the dust again... With no renewing schematics for the entire xpac, like in cata.
10/07/2012 11:03 AMPosted by PogobearDid people QQ this hard about Chaos Orbs in Cataclysm? Spirit of Harmony is this expansion's equivalent of Chaos Orbs, except you don't even have to run heroic dungeons to get them. You'll have 2-3 spirit of harmony just from leveling from 85-90, whereas in Cata, guess how many Chaos Orbs you got leveling from 80-85? Yep, 0.
10/07/2012 11:10 AMPosted by InsertionDid people QQ this hard about Chaos Orbs in Cataclysm? Spirit of Harmony is this expansion's equivalent of Chaos Orbs, except you don't even have to run heroic dungeons to get them. You'll have 2-3 spirit of harmony just from leveling from 85-90, whereas in Cata, guess how many Chaos Orbs you got leveling from 80-85? Yep, 0.
I had to make the richest person on my server wait 2 days so I could craft his BoE chest and gloves - even though he can buy any mats he wants. I have an ORDER list of people to craft BoEs for.
Know what the difference is? In Cata I could sit down with some undergeared guildies and grind out 5mans, picking up what orbs I can. I'm actively playing the game and accomplishing something MORE than grinding.
In MoP, I spend 3-4 hours grinding motes just to deliver an epic to someone and do it again. I don't mind Spirits being the Chaos Orb of MoP, I just wish they'd give us more ways to get them.
I'm one of those with ineffective aoe as a subtlety rogue, instead I found a cave where the mobs are plentiful and respawn very quickly, I tap nodes in the meantime. So I agree, there are many different ways to get SoH in short order, not sure about the drop rate though, an increase in the rate might get the 90s out of the capital city, but not much further than the main gate, they will simply tap the nearest mob and be done with it. If Blizz really wanted to get stingy they could have designed them to only drop in certain zones, I really think their being quite lenient on this compared to the chaos orb nightmare.
Edit to add: the chaos orbs only dropping in dungeons and raids was the sole reason I did not choose a crafting profession because I knew I would not be able to craft epics w/out the orbs, and I do not like instances and raids. So I stayed as a farmer the entire expansion and made plenty of gold. I'm still a farmer, but now I'm at least considering taking up crafting on an alt. I agree though that bosses can still drop them, perhaps two or three rather than the one that gets dropped from trash mobs.
The major difference you knew that the orb was a 100% drop in the dungeons, and if went with people that had no crafting professions, they were yours.
The motes are an awful drop rate, I don't care what anyone says, I've been doing every daily since 90, and I've only obtained a few spirits.
The motes seem to drop more from the lower level zones than the zones where the dailies actually are.
The drop rate needs an increase, Chaos Orbs and Wrath Orbs was much easier than this system.
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