Elusive Brew inconsistent with 2Hs, again

90 Human Monk
17840
Following the formula posted on the beta analysis forums months ago (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6397900436#2), a 3.6 2H weapon is supposed to always generate 3 stacks per crit. It worked like that during (most of) beta, but now it's inconsistently generating 2 or 3 again.

Dummy tests using different 2Hs of the same speed:
http://imgur.com/6lfl5,Qh0DT

Dummy tests while DW to see if the DW formula still applied, and it does.
http://imgur.com/l27j2

And to see if it's not a dummy issue, I've logged a short 5-man using Spear of Xuen. Same results.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/vgld1oasjoy72fqe/xe/?x=sourceName+%3D+%22Litchi%22+AND%0D%0A%28fullType+%3D+SWING_DAMAGE+AND+isCritical+%3D+TRUE%29%0D%0AOR+%28spellID+%3D+128939%29

But for some reason, most/all logs from MV show 2Hs always generating 3 stacks. For example:

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/bporkhm0kxxacepu/xe/?s=12892&e=13481&x=sourceName+%3D+%22Samboro%22+AND%0D%0A%28fullType+%3D+SWING_DAMAGE+AND+isCritical+%3D+TRUE%29%0D%0AOR+%28spellID+%3D+128939%29

Anyone else having this issue?
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90 Human Warlock
17000
Hm, I can't see anything you might be overlooking. Crosspost this to bug report?
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90 Human Monk
17840
So, uh... I found the source.

Glyph of Jab

Glyph it, 2H generates 2 stacks.
Unglyph it, 2H generates 3 stacks.

/boggle
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90 Pandaren Monk
11790
The glyph isnt the source.

I was using the Ghost something from last boss in mogu shan and sometimes ive had only 2 stacks.

Wasnt using the Glyph of Jab.
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Brewing: Elusive Brew
Your autoattack critical strikes grant up to 3 charges of Elusive Brew, based on weapon speed. Use Elusive Brew to consume the charges.

doesn't say always in tooltip say's up to i would imagine some factor such as a haste buff from a party member may be making you attack faster possibly making 2 proc more than 3 i get that in groups with a haste buff
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90 Human Warlock
17000
Brewing: Elusive Brew
Your autoattack critical strikes grant up to 3 charges of Elusive Brew, based on weapon speed. Use Elusive Brew to consume the charges.

doesn't say always in tooltip say's up to i would imagine some factor such as a haste buff from a party member may be making you attack faster possibly making 2 proc more than 3 i get that in groups with a haste buff

If you read the link from beta, you can find the formula given by Crithto, which is 3.0*(weapon speed/3.6) charges gained. Using a 3.6 speed weapon, it should be 3.0*(3.6/3.6) = 3.0*1 = 3.

Monks do not provide a haste buff, so the explanation of haste buff could explain the 5 man, and some of the poorly put together raid comps, but it does not explain the dummy inaccuracies.
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90 Human Paladin
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10/10/2012 07:11 AMPosted by Serinicas
Monks do not provide a haste buff, so the explanation of haste buff could explain the 5 man, and some of the poorly put together raid comps, but it does not explain the dummy inaccuracies.


Monks get 40% passive haste with a 2 hander, so that would be too obvious to be causing the problem.
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90 Draenei Monk
5260
Oddly enough, I had this same issue, with only getting 2 stacks here and there, I also had the glyph of jab. After ditching it, I was getting 3 more frequently, however still got 2 stacks on the odd occasion.

Edit: This is also using the spear of Xuen.
Edited by Orcanys on 10/10/2012 1:41 PM PDT
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42 Human Monk
8190
Mmm.
I noticed it as well: Once I equipped the Glyph of Jab, I was getting two stacks instead of three.
Once I removed the glyph, I was -still- Jabbing with my bare fists, and only getting two stacks, until I re-equipped my weapon.
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90 Pandaren Monk
2670
It might be an issue with the Jab morph, where it turns into a different spell, basically.
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90 Human Monk
17840
Makes sense, as it starts generating stacks like a very heavy 1H: (1.5*3.6/2.6) ~= 2. Meanwhile DW stack generation remains the same
Edited by Litchi on 10/10/2012 1:58 PM PDT
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90 Pandaren Monk
10920
Hmm, that's interesting. I'm imagining a situation where the Glyph of Jab provides some kind of unarmed override that makes the game display the unarmed animation (which could count as 1handed) and somehow triggers the 1h proc rate mechanically.
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86 Orc Warlock
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OT: Commie, I think "Brewercracy" fits better than "Brewmocracy"! :D
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Mmm.
I noticed it as well: Once I equipped the Glyph of Jab, I was getting two stacks instead of three.
Once I removed the glyph, I was -still- Jabbing with my bare fists, and only getting two stacks, until I re-equipped my weapon.


Re-equipping weapon fixed it for me as well. Annoying bug, at least that appears to temporarily fix it though
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