I need help with. . .

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building a computer. I need to know the basics and I have a budget of about 500-600$. I'm not trying to go overboard with the latest and greatest, just want to play MMOs and actually enjoy myself instead of resisting the urge to kill ever living thing on this planet when my crappy computer can't even achieve 15fps on WoW with low settings.
Serious responses only please. I'm not trying to get trolled, I'm looking for advice. I have a motherboard picked out that a friend recommend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 but. . .that's about it. So please, if anyone can help, please do lol.
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
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See this guide:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6293460070
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Any way to umm. . .simplify that? lol I'm sorry, I'm just a noob when it comes to these things.
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** Build 0: Absolute MAXIMUM CHEAPEST Build

Note: Only take this if you REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY need to save as much money as possible NO MATTER WHAT. You sacrifice everything to get this build going.

CPU: Celeron G530
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-1333, 1.5v)
Graphics: Radeon HD 6670 (It MUST mention that it is GDDR5 in the name/VRAM)
Power Supply: Seasonic SS-350ET 350W
Hard Drive: Cheap 500GB or -smaller- if you are fine with it.
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD burner
Case: Cheap ATX mid-tower case

Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hQQ4

Estimated cost: ~$370
Estimated FPS in WoW: ~30

Anything else I need to know about this build? Programming and such? I saw that you recommend downloading everything from the vendors? I chose it because I truly need to save money. But, I truly want to game lol.
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91 Blood Elf Paladin
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Kalg's guide is thorough and sums everything up. The board you picked is too expensive for a $600 build. We can give build recommendations but need to know a couple things:

* Do you need a monitor or just the tower?
* Do you need a (legit) copy of windows?
* Are you willing to go to $600 or do you really want it closer to $500?
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I have a monitor, need a tower.
That I do.
As cheap as it can get, my friend.
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100 Blood Elf Paladin
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Well, the cheapest build should only be done if you absolutely can't spare any more money, as it has severe lack of upgrade potential. If money can be spared, Build 1 is better for future expansion purposes, with Build 2 being the best choice.
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But will it give me problems? Or will it run smoothly enough?
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It won't give you problems, and it will run OK, but don't expect anything fantastic.
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Hey as long as I can raid and BG and be in SW or ORG without lagging like crazy even on low settings, I'll be happy.
I want to thank you, I'll get this build and upgrade whenever I can to the other builds you recommend. Thank you once again for your guides.
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This is ~$490 after rebates with a legit copy of win7 64-bit, 3ghz Sandy Bridge Pentium, Radeon 7770, 8gb of ram and a 1tb HD. Use the extra $10 to grab another 120mm fan from 'egg for the rear - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214029

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdMd

Alternate case, no need for extra fan, $2 more total: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235026&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Parts list in with that case: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdPA

The build mostly follows Kalg's guide but nabs some deals of the moment. Sorry about the rebates, but often times that's how cheap happens. Do you happen to live in a state where Newegg charges tax? (TN, NJ, CA)
Edited by Selvaganesh on 10/2/2012 11:56 PM PDT
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CA. Also, will I be able to edit with this? Or is it too much for me to edit?
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Kalg's build you pasted above currently comes to $450 with Windows. Here is the best you can do for $450 at the moment with current deals:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdQG

edit: re-formulating because of CA where you'd pay tax from Newegg...

and - you mean video editing? Those Sandy Bridge Pentiums are pretty hefty chips...they won't quite match an i3 or possibly an AMD quad in heavily threaded editing apps, but they won't tick you off either.
Edited by Selvaganesh on 10/3/2012 12:06 AM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Wait wait, is

10/03/2012 12:02 AMPosted by Selvaganesh
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdQG


your build?
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91 Blood Elf Paladin
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Yes
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Yeah video editing.
So is your build better? Or about the same?
Sorry for all the questions and whatnot.
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Ok here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdQX

Motherboard: buy from Amazon instead of Newegg - same price

Memory: just hafta eat the tax at Newegg ~$3.50

Video Card: switched to the HiS model b/c $5 more than the Powercolor is less than tax on $90 - buy from Amazon they have the same rebate as 'egg

Case: buy from Amazon, same rebate, $2 more, but that's cheaper than tax at 'egg

Power Supply: note that ncix will add shipping for that...guesstimating ~$8

Optical: buy from Amazon, same price

That puts the total at ~$468 in the end. It's hard to reduce costs from there...you end up with crap components or reducing cpu/video performance.

Edit: The build is based on Kalg's approach, but it's a bit better because of price changes and current deals. The cpu and video card are better, and the case is decent.
Edited by Selvaganesh on 10/3/2012 12:17 AM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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I see. So with everything on that link, I can start buying the parts? My god, I never realized people could be this helpful lol.
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Yes...although I'd probably spend slightly more like this:

* $8 more on the cpu to go from 2.9 to 3ghz, G860 @ Amazon

* $22 more on the video card to go from 7750 to 7770 - HiS 7770 from 'Egg, eat the tax

* $10 more on the hard drive to have a 1TB - Seagate from ncix

That will put you back at a shade over $500 (~$508-ish), but imo all of those changes are worth it unless you just have to keep it as cheap as possible. Here's the link for those changes: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdMd
Edited by Selvaganesh on 10/3/2012 12:27 AM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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Have to keep it as cheap as possible, but ty. I'll see if I can scrounge up a bit more money and take your suggestions into account. I just need to upgrade from this crappy laptop. Driving me crazy. Thanks for all the info and builds. Ima go shop now lol.
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