Mana Tide not giving mana?

90 Goblin Shaman
9305
Have there been any changes to mana tide? When I cast it, I do not get any mana back.
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They changed mana tide to just provide a super spirit boost. It's a terrible change in my opinion.
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90 Goblin Shaman
9305
Oh... in my current gear(the best questing gives!) I only get 23k mana... I didn't notice.

Thanks.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
11245
It's a 200% spirit boost so returns are based on MP5. Flasked and fed i run at 14k combat regen so i will take 28k mp5 every three minutes.
Edited by Harpoa on 10/3/2012 5:20 AM PDT
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100 Pandaren Shaman
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10/03/2012 05:20 AMPosted by Harpoa
It's a 200% spirit boost so returns are based on MP5. Flasked and fed i run at 14k combat regen so i will take 28k mp5 every three minutes.

I'm shocked to hear you say this. You've been around long enough to know this isn't how it works.

Mana Tide provides 200% Spirit specifically, not 200% Combat Regen.

For example, I'm sitting at about 10k Spirit when flasked. Mana Tide thus provides ~20k Spirit for 16 seconds. At an in-combat rate of 0.5568, this is ~11.1k MP5 for 16 seconds (35.6k total mana regen).

Please note that with these numbers, I am Spirit stacking. The average shaman's returns in current gear will be lower.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
11245
10/03/2012 07:25 AMPosted by Caleko
I'm shocked to hear you say this. You've been around long enough to know this isn't how it works.


Yeah my brain is working this morning.
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90 Draenei Shaman
13010
Wow, so it seems like MTT is not really all that great. I try to use it on CD if I am less than 85% mana or thereabouts. It doesnt seem to do all that much for me but I figured it would improve with gear. But here a shaman with 10k spirit is only getting 11k mp5 or so? I must say at this time, it seems that MTT is lagging behind compared to other healers ways of getting mana.

(please note that I do not have any hard evidence nor do I "know" alot about other healers and their mana return systems. I only know what I have been told by folks who play those classes and what I read in various threads about the maths for the mana returns systems for different classes. If I am wrong and MTT is fan-freaking-tastic than I apologize and will study harder in the future! ;p)
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