10/06/2012 09:40 PMPosted by AnarriEmpathy followed civility out the window, I'm afraid.
Sometimes being repeatedly condescending and dismissive is even less civil than name calling.
10/06/2012 09:54 PMPosted by TaymageSometimes being repeatedly condescending and dismissive is even less civil than name calling.
10/06/2012 10:20 PMPosted by StephenieConstructive is a word that i feel is being thrown around alot lately. What is constructive feedback. Anytime someone discusses their feelings it is regulated as not being constructive. When numbers are posted, those numbers are seen as faulty so that is not considered constructive. Comparing to other classes isn't considered constructive because the class are different so there is no way to compare apples to oranges. Or is it the attitude when someone posts. That means that if someone is frustrated they should not post at all.
10/06/2012 09:16 PMPosted by LighthazardThe problem is that we dont need another tank CD. The way I see it this skill will have very few uses outside of very specific situations.
10/06/2012 09:46 PMPosted by AnarriYou don't help the problem when you continually insult people who are already upset. You aren't calming anything when you tell them to just shut up and stop posting. You aren't helping anymore than they are.
How would you have me calm the situation?
Next up, Shado-pan. Nothing terrible until the last trash packs before Taran-zhu, unless the group executed them flawlessly (this is on regular), they oom'd me on him. After the 10% mana reduction, I wasn't oom, but in no way was I ready for the next pull. The worst part was, I had a friend make a holy pali, leveled it to 87, and then healed that instance (in a very sloppy pug from what I saw), and those pulls only took them to about 50% mana at worst. They were using selfless healer, and not Eternal Flame, nor were they abusing crusader strike for HoPo.
Got to 90. Got ever piece of the free-on-beta PvP gear, even gemmed and chanted it for straight spirit, or wore slightly lower pieces that had more spirit. Heroics were painful if the group wanted to go fast, or took some unavoidable damage. I was using my mana cd's on cooldown on trash and boss fight alike, powerdrinking, and making toons to sell/delete just for the gold to buy mana pots at the stupid ridiculous beta prices people wanted. I even tried using the higher ilvl int pieces with spirit reforged to them, with no better luck.
I tried to heal a few LFR runs, but even with very low (20% or less including EoL, Divine Hymn, and renew) overhealing, and using mana cd's on CD, etc. I was ooming faster and putting out less effective healing than any other healer in there by a large margin. I switched back to solace, thinking I could weave it in between casts and do better, and I'll admit, it was a little better, but not by enough to even remotely close that healing gap.
10/07/2012 12:00 AMPosted by TiriélI'd have you show a little empathy, and if you couldn't, just leave them alone.
10/07/2012 09:14 AMPosted by AlasheCan you make those people go away?
10/07/2012 09:24 AMPosted by AnarriCan you make those people go away?
If I saw people saying that I would certainly try, but I don't.
10/07/2012 09:29 AMPosted by AlasheI think if we're capable of distinguishing the constructive posts from the venty posts, the developers probably are too.
10/07/2012 09:29 AMPosted by AlasheI can't imagine how you miss them, but I'll hold you to it.
That's the thing though, they won't go away if they're left alone, and getting them to go away is the goal. I'll grant you I'm not exactly being nice about it, but I seriously don't understand how anyone could ever think that this kind of venting is helpful to anyone. I can empathize just fine with nerfs, I'm sure you remember the crusade I was on against the WG nerf at the tail end of 4.2, but I can't condone the type of posting that's been going on here.
10/07/2012 10:16 AMPosted by AlasheWe've had the data for months (the numbers on beta showed paladins and monks doubling priest healing and we were told then that they would be nerfed).
10/07/2012 10:16 AMPosted by AlasheIf you're going to demand constructive posts you should hold yourself to the same standard
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