10/08/2012 10:19 PMEven the new Horde does not have the most impressive of track records. Immediately after the third war, they invaded Ashenvale, the lands of a potential trading partner and not-long-removed ally from the Battle of Mount Hyjal. The trolls and the tauren didn't say a word against this until Garrosh took charge. Meanwhile the forsaken, under Sylvannas's direction created and later employed a new plague, raising people into undeath as they did so. Even the Blood Elves created weapons of mass destruction, and in every situation save for a handful, they have instigated conflict and war.
Posted by Kyalin
this is not toaly accurate. there was trade between the Nelves and the orcs at at least one point, and the ashenvale invasion is kind of blurry as to what was agression by the horde/attacks by the Nelves on the "trade wood".
createing a weapon is not bad, the plague is no worse than any sword, bomb, or mage who can make you burn to death from the inside. it was never a secret that they were makeing a weapon, any member of the horde could do those quests. they also didnt start raising dead until Cata, long after everyone made peace with DKs doing the exact same thing in a far worse manner.
everyone builds weapons, that blood elves imporved a weapon they had since BC isnt bad. no worse than the super air ship the alliance has now. unless you ban all weapons you are just drawing an arbitrary line in the sand.
i would say most conflicts have been instigated by third parties, and more by the horde than the alliance. but the totality of starting a war/conflict amounts to more than the orc threw the first rock.
as to the horde self governing... they should have that right. so long as the horde isnt attacking/threatening the alliance the alliance should not take a paternalistic stance on other people's lives. just because you dont like the way people choose to run a country doesnt mean you should take away their choice.
i personaly despise the idea of monarchy, i believe every living king/queen/royal should be stripped of power, title, and property. then flayed alive and left to die of exposure. still it isnt my role or choice to enact these things if other people choose to keep their kings... so long as those kings dont try to tell me what to do.