Shroud of Reversal on Feng

90 Tauren Paladin
12510
Would someone be so kind as to help me in properly using this buff, I got it to work a few times, but it was pretty hectic and i was not sure how it went down.

Ideally i am going to interrupt every other Epicenter with this paired with Lightning Fist.

Thanks for any help offered!
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90 Tauren Paladin
12510
Ok, so after reading the little bit i could find on this, i "THINK" that when the Lightning Fist is approaching, i need to be ready and waiting to immediately cast it on whoever gets hit by the ability,

the goal being to use reversal on that person while they still have the debuff.

Does this sound right?
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90 Tauren Druid
0
Channel on MT, MT gets hit by lightning fists, you get the ability.
Then use it when he's doing epicenter.

Someone can probably be more specific than that, I was just the MT watching my buffs to see when I should just take it to the face.
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90 Tauren Warrior
10720
Channel on MT, MT gets hit by lightning fists, you get the ability.
Then use it when he's doing epicenter.

Someone can probably be more specific than that, I was just the MT watching my buffs to see when I should just take it to the face.


I believe the idea here is to take one of the epicenters using the bubble, and then the tank with the bubble will get hit with lightening fists. Before he gets hit by this spell you need to target, and channel on him, to get the ability yourself. Once the boss starts to cast epicenter you want to hit him with lightening fists to stun him and cancel the cast.

You should alternate this, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Edited by Sancalin on 10/7/2012 7:48 PM PDT
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90 Pandaren Warrior
15860
Its a channel not a cast + buff.

You can't move or do anything while channeling it.

Channel it right before someone takes dmg from epicenter/gets hit by fists/wild spark explodes/just channel for 1s on people with velocity etc
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90 Night Elf Druid
17755
You use the Shroud on a friendly target, which starts a channel. While this channel is active, you will copy the next spell that hits/damages the target, which if you time it correcly should be Lightning Fists. Once you have done this, you can now use Lightning Fists.

I don't know the cooldown of Shroud or how long the copied ability lasts. But that's the mechanic.
Edited by Slashlove on 10/7/2012 8:19 PM PDT
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90 Tauren Warrior
9705
Anyone had problems with him not using fist between epicenters? It is happening often to us and sometimes we cant click the crystals to get one of the buffs. Fix plOx.
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90 Tauren Druid
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10/07/2012 09:00 PMPosted by Fixd
Anyone had problems with him not using fist between epicenters? It is happening often to us and sometimes we cant click the crystals to get one of the buffs.

Targeting's been bugged since 5.0, not at all surprising it'd pop up on the crystals.
And yes, we had him just stop casting lightning fists partway through phase 1. Not really a big deal, healing through epicenter wasn't too bad.
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90 Troll Death Knight
0
Its a channel not a cast + buff.

You can't move or do anything while channeling it.


Actually demo, I was able to continue dpsing the boss while it was channeling.
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90 Pandaren Warrior
15860
Its a channel not a cast + buff.

You can't move or do anything while channeling it.


Actually demo, I was able to continue dpsing the boss while it was channeling.


While channeling epicenter.

If i did anything while channeling shroud it messed up
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100 Undead Monk
4090
I was able to dps while casting shroud too. I just couldn't move. I found myself copying Epicenter or the tank debuff more myself. Easier to pull off rather than asking a tank or dps to get hit for 250k and stunned.
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99 Tauren Death Knight
14590
10/08/2012 12:12 AMPosted by Petros
I was able to dps while casting shroud too. I just couldn't move. I found myself copying Epicenter or the tank debuff more myself. Easier to pull off rather than asking a tank or dps to get hit for 250k and stunned.


True, but the point is, you can completely negate epicenter altogether if you can get Lightning Fist. Prrrretty handy.
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90 Troll Death Knight
0
10/07/2012 09:27 PMPosted by Ðemolition
If i did anything while channeling shroud it messed up


No I meant shroud. I never actually got epicenter because I assumed it wouldn't let me get it.
Edited by Mortalitus on 10/8/2012 1:41 PM PDT
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99 Tauren Death Knight
14590
Yeah, you can, and I think it's more damage overall than the other. But, the stun sure does simplify things.
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100 Night Elf Warrior
17010
Towards the end of tonight I read the description on wildfire spark reversal a bit more closely. The button says it just makes your attacks deal fire damage, but the buff you get after using the ability says you can absorb wildfire.

I never got a chance to actually try it, I'm curious if anyone did. Does the wildfire spark reversal let you do something about the wildfire on the ground?
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1 Draenei Paladin
0
Put Feng on focus and cast Shroud of Reversal when he begins to cast Lightning Fists. The tank has to get HIT by the spell to copy it, remember.

Tank 1 gets Nullification Barrier
Tank 2 gets Shroud of Reversal

Tank 1 tanks first. Assuming you can get Lightning Fists right off the bat, tank 2 stuns Feng's first Epicenter. At that point, tank 2 taunts. Tank 1 uses barrier on the next Epicenter. You just switch up using the abilities every other time.
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91 Draenei Paladin
10465
One thing to be careful of while trying to get lightning fist is to not just channel Shroud at the other tank constantly, or you'll often pick up the dot instead of lighting fist. While it's awesome to do a metric poop ton of damage on this fight, at least in the first phase there's better uses of shroud. In P2 and P3, I was just swiping the dot and putting it back on him. Huzzah for being #1 on damage as a tank!

What I do is while the other tank is tanking make sure he's planning on eating a lightning fist, click the button so the little hand pops up, then as soon as the boss starts casting lightning fist, I click the other tank in my raid frame to start channeling. I should probably make a macro that does it in one click and keybind it though. Oh, thank you google and wowhead for providing me with a macro:

/tar NameOfTheTank
/click ExtraActionButton1
/tar lasttarget

Edit: Also note that as a channeled ability, you need to not move or you'll cancel the channel and not get anything.
Edited by Helagoth on 10/10/2012 5:16 AM PDT
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90 Pandaren Monk
2535
We attempted this boss for the first time last night.. I was the shroud of reversal tank. More often than not I would get the debuff as the timers in DBM were way off for the fight. One point he casted epicenter twice before doing lightning fists. If you manage to steal the fists, negates a ton of dmg your healers have to heal through, which is nice.
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90 Pandaren Warrior
17365
sometimes:
- the bossmod timers can be totally off
- feng doesn't use lightning fists between epicenters
- feng doesn't *cast* lightning fists, he just uses it like an instant w/o warning

we nullify the 1st and 3rd epicenters, then try to stun 2 & 4. we try to prepare for me not getting it - after eating a stun our MT will ask "did you get it rick?", and if not we prepare to run into the center (away from the boss who's tanked at the edge) and pop personal survivability CDs along with raid healing spells/CDs.

it's frustrating that it works like that, but c'est la vie. deal with RNG or get owned by it.
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