Who Started the Current War?

25 Blood Elf Paladin
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Camp T was a military target, this was confirmed in ToW. There would be no reason for the alliance to ignore it unless there were some extenuating circumstance. Neither you nor anyone else has provided such a circumstance beyond "because"


Desire to minimize casualties? Wanting to maintain momentum? Not wanting to divert forces? Crossroads was considered more important?

There are tons of potential reasons.
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94 Orc Warrior
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Desire to minimize casualties? Wanting to maintain momentum? Not wanting to divert forces? Crossroads was considered more important?

There are tons of potential reasons.


highlighting the key word here, you have nothing to back these up.
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25 Blood Elf Paladin
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10/12/2012 09:56 PMPosted by Shippyship
highlighting the key word here, you have nothing to back these up.


Aside from the fact that the Alliance apparently waited for intel on Taurajo that was not of a tactical nature before attacking, indicating that it wasn't immediately deemed a necessary target.
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94 Orc Warrior
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10/12/2012 10:03 PMPosted by Vyrin
highlighting the key word here, you have nothing to back these up.


Aside from the fact that the Alliance apparently waited for intel on Taurajo that was not of a tactical nature before attacking, indicating that it wasn't immediately deemed a necessary target.


so in an invasion you just blindly attack all your targets without doing recon? because that's what you are implying
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25 Blood Elf Paladin
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so in an invasion you just blindly attack all your targets without doing recon? because that's what you are implying


No, you formulate a strategy beforehand, and apparently Taurajo wasn't initially part of it. How could the Horde have conceivably attacked the Alliance from Taurajo before the Alliance were in the Barrens?
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94 Orc Warrior
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10/12/2012 10:26 PMPosted by Vyrin
No, you formulate a strategy beforehand, and apparently Taurajo wasn't initially part of it.


and how exactly do they predict the movement of the hunters in these plans?

10/12/2012 10:26 PMPosted by Vyrin
How could the Horde have conceivably attacked the Alliance from Taurajo before the Alliance were in the Barrens?


by walking to northwatch or dustwallow?
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25 Blood Elf Paladin
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10/12/2012 10:29 PMPosted by Shippyship
and how exactly do they predict the movement of the hunters in these plans?


After they planned an attack on Taurajo, which happened after their initial push.

10/12/2012 10:29 PMPosted by Shippyship
by walking to northwatch or dustwallow?


Why would they attack from Camp T instead of Crossroads or Brackenwall?
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91 Undead Warlock
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10/12/2012 11:14 PMPosted by Vyrin
Why would they attack from Camp T instead of Crossroads or Brackenwall?


Camp T was closer for starters. Also, it is confusing why they didn't attack Brackenwall considering the Stonemaul Ogres are raiding the Highway. But Crossroads was about to be attacked when the Cataclysm happened, which also broke the Greymane wall, which was the cause of the war... hm... maybe the Azeroth version of the Book of Cain will shed some light on this matter.
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94 Orc Warrior
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10/12/2012 11:14 PMPosted by Vyrin
After they planned an attack on Taurajo, which happened after their initial push.


Just no. The only way they could know the position of the hunters is to watch the camp which is all hawthorne states they did. It was recon. It in no way proves anything about whether the attack came before or during an invasion.

10/12/2012 11:14 PMPosted by Vyrin
Why would they attack from Camp T instead of Crossroads or Brackenwall?


Sometimes it seems like you care more about the other person being wrong than the argument itself. Unless you have short term memory loss you will recall that you tried to claim that it was impossible for the tauren to attack the alliance unless the invasion force was already in the barrens.

With that in mind, what you just asked is "Why did the attack that the bad intel claimed would come from camp t have to come from camp t?"

Its late. I'm tired. This has been going on for hours with you saying little more than "its not conflicting because I said so." So I'm done

enjoy your willful ignorance
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91 Undead Warlock
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In my opinion, the Horde started the War with the invasion of Gilneas, but the Alliance are the ones that offically declared War for aiding the Gilneans and allowing them to seek haven in their cities.
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25 Blood Elf Paladin
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Just no. The only way they could know the position of the hunters is to watch the camp which is all hawthorne states they did. It was recon. It in no way proves anything about whether the attack came before or during an invasion.


If it was during an invasion then the Alliance was already going to attack it. If that were the case then it wouldn't have mattered that the Alliance got intel that they were preparing an attack, which Tides of War explicitly states the Alliance attack was based on.

Sometimes it seems like you care more about the other person being wrong than the argument itself. Unless you have short term memory loss you will recall that you tried to claim that it was impossible for the tauren to attack the alliance unless the invasion force was already in the barrens.


And I stand by that. It was impossible for anyone stationed from Camp T to mount an attack on the Alliance unless the Alliance was already in the vicinity.

10/12/2012 11:55 PMPosted by Shippyship
With that in mind, what you just asked is "Why did the attack that the bad intel claimed would come from camp t have to come from camp t?"


Hey, I'm over here. Stop hitting that strawman with pointed sticks.
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