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I have been looking around and cannot seem to find anything decent so if anyone has a link I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Truck

10/12/2012 04:31 PMPosted by Clutche

That and Low needs to make a warrior prot guide. Seriously do you want that OTHER guide stickied again? Seriously? Do you?

It's coming by the end of the weekend. My inside men told me.

That other Prot guide wasn't too great but some of the feedback was just rude =P

Apparently warriors are the lazy tank =P

Spend less time styling your beards and more time writing!!!

I have a guide that I could post whenever, but I'm not going to because other people are writing one that's probably better than mine.
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2489160859

Here's a guide:

Shield Slam on CD
Revenge on CD
Devastate when neither shield slam or revenge is up.

I prefer to also devastate right after shield slam (even if revenge is up) for higher chance for shield slam to instantly refresh, but thats just me.

For aoe tanking, Clap on cd and use your shockwave/bladestorm/dragon's roar on cd.

Now all those are either rage neutral, or generate rage.

This is where it gets interesting.

Shield block takes 60 rage and blocks 30/60% (crit block) of all incoming melee attacks (might include ranged, but its definitely physical only).
Shield barrier takes at least 20 and up to 60 and absorbs an amount of damage that is modified by the amount of rage used (scaling linearly, which means 3 20 rage barriers is the same as a 60 rage barrier). It absorbs any damage you would be taking, that includes dots, spells, melee hits, whatever. It also scales based on your AP, so high vengeance makes this more effective.

Now I -hate- the new shield block, and I would only use it in one of 2 situations (which are almost the same)

1. tanking lots of adds and want to even out damage.
2. boss just had a frenzy or equivalent mechanic, and you want to smooth out damage.

Basically, lots of physical only, fast hits on you makes shield block better.

In the vast majority of cases spamming shield barrier is more useful imo.

Your other rage spenders are heroic strike (30 rage, single target) or cleave (30 rage, 2 targets). They work exactly the same as they did in cata.

In a raid, you will almost never want to use heroic strike/cleave, as you will need to spam your barrier to help even out damage and help your healers out (it is very easy to pull 10-20k hps with barrier alone, which is about equal to half a healer).

Spamming cleave/heroic strike will at most increase your dps by 5-10%, so its really not worth it.

In heroic dungeons, you might wanna use it to get some extra dps and threat on stuff.

Thats about it really for tanking. You have the same cd's as before (shield wall, last stand, rallying cry), and you gained demoralizing as a small but low cd damage reduct cd, and demoralizing flag (sorry i forgot the real name, the #2 flag) as another damage reduct cd.

If you use avatar as your tier 90 talent, macro it with recklessness and skull banner for higher raid and your dps. You may also want to shattering throw at this point.

Challenging shout has been replaced by a placeable aoe known as mocking banner, which ticks every couple seconds and taunts everything in range. Very very useful for lots of spaawning adds that are very spread out and/or your clap is on cd.

10/14/2012 09:50 PMPosted by Sibilance

In the vast majority of cases spamming shield barrier is more useful imo.

Would have to disagree here, from personal experience and a few different blogs I've read recently, keeping Shield Block up, and using Barrier when between with excess rage will give you the most smoothing of damage.

Yes you will end up absorbing more damage, and taking less damage overall, but your damage could be spikey and if you get unlucky you can go down pretty hard and pretty quickly. Keeping Shield Block up as much as possible will do the best to smooth your incoming damage. IMO.

Its the end of the weekend.

Still no prot warrior guide in the warrior forums.

/not surprised

Psh, get to 90 and you can talk, CASUAL! :P

But yeah, I'm actually writing it! As in, in the midst of doing so right now D:

Psh, get to 90 and you can talk, CASUAL! :P

But yeah, I'm actually writing it! As in, in the midst of doing so right now D:

Hurry i need a link to put into the gear guide for warriors and i dont want to link to a bad guide!!

And someone with over 10k posts is hardly casual.

Did Lowmaine/other tank forum star ever write a quality guide? I've seen the EJ guide and one that was buried in the Warrior forums. Are those sufficent? It seemed like the one in the forums was decent, but people were still critiquing it.