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This thread is a bit of a switch.
What happened to "you don't need VP gear if you raid"? I know some of you have been making that point in other threads.
If you don't need the gear, why are you worried about how much VP you're getting?
You want to VP upgrade your gear in 5.1, suck it up and do your dailies, just like you've been telling others they need to in other threads to get gear.
To paraphrase some of you "This is what Blizzard intends - to reward you for participating in multiple forms of content. If you don't like it, you can just progress at a slower rate."
Does it hurt now the shoe is about to be on your foot?
And don't worry, I agree the VP gains from raiding are too low especially when the VP gains from the easiest form of raiding are so much higher. That was a point I made shortly after LFR came out. I'm just finding this funny coming from people who were complaining about concerns that other players had for the past couple of weeks but now that it's about to hit home for you, you're starting to complain.
11/12/2012 04:47 PMPosted by JoynalYou want to VP upgrade your gear in 5.1, suck it up and do your dailies, just like you've been telling others they need to in other threads to get gear.
Valor seems to burn time in MoP way more then any other game. I barely have time for alts and I feel like im playing a ton of wow as it is. I may just stop worrying about capping it once im done my daily grinds, the commitment is too big for a casual player who wants to enjoy other things as well (pet battles, pvp, etc).
This weeks a perfect example. The only thing I have really done all week are things that gain valor. I am at 945/1000 i think right now, and I know I won't be getting home until late tonight, so I will most likely just barely have time to do enough dailies to hit 1000 and then log. I only had time to go to darkmoon once this week.
Yup. I have 3 lvl 90s. One hit valor cap this morning. Only now can my other 2 toons get benefit from their "generous" +50% valor earned. LOL
But we're supposed to get our gear from drops, you say? We don't need valor? Well, my mage's last 15 lfr boss kills, 9 Elder tokens, and 16 heroics run without any drops says that we need valor to "supplement" what we get (or don't) from drops.
The changes Blizz has made in MoP have made the game fell a lot more like a job - and now I'm only getting minimum wage. Because the rate at which one earns valor is pathetic!
I really don't like that it takes sooo much longer to obtain the rewards that we used get. Dailies are a huge time commitment, and valor points take a lot longer to cap. And I really feel sorry for those who can't play every single day.
Really Blizz. Starting listening to your player base and quit defending your ill conceived plan to give us "more content".
Over the past few years, the WoW development team has been streamlining pretty much every aspect of the game. No more short term required buffs (shaman shields, paladin judgements, etc). Every buff pretty much lasts an hour now. Class rotations have been optimized not only to make things easier, but to make them more fun. Gone are two button rotations (mage) as well as needlessly convoluted rotations requiring 10 button presses for average dps (warlock). The point here, every design decision has been focused on making the game FUN.
Valor points are not fun.
At this point, everybody can use VP. I think the reason there so much angst toward the current valor point system is that everybody wants (and some people need!) to cap those VP. And it just takes so long. So very, very long.
It's strange that every other design decision has been about streamlining the game play experience, whereas VP is specifically designed to be a slog.
VP should be changed so any player, regardless of how or why they play, should be able to get to the 1000 point VP cap easily.
Dailies - Let's say someone who likes dailies runs an average of 10 a day. Currently they will end up with 50 VP a day or 350 for the week. Up the VP per daily to 15.
Heroics - Change it so you get 7 'double VP' points per week, not 1 per day. Up the VP rewards to 100 for those 7, and 50 for each one after that.
Raids - 125 per completed raid + 25 per boss.
Valor points have been a part of Warcraft. Everybody wants them, everybody can use them. So give it to them. This needlessly grindy aspect to the game is something that would have been done 5 years ago. The current state of the game should logically dictate that a smooth system that allows anybody to get to the 1000 point cap efficiently is the way to go. People won't stop playing once they get to 1000 points. It will just let them play more alts, or do things for a reason other than getting a small point reward toward a weekly cap.
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