10/27/2012 03:38 PMWe're not sure if we'll be doing this. The tome worked out well enough for Wrath of the Lich King as an experiment, but so much of the experience we spent a lot of time and effort shaping in Pandaria is negated by flying. In addition to the [url="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794350230"]upcoming reputation changes[/url] for alts (when a character on the account hits Revered), we'll consider other methods of potentially speeding up the leveling process for alts, but we don't think "allow flying" is necessarily the best answer.
Posted by Crithto
Here's the thing.
I don't like flying mounts. I think they're stupid and were only fitting and fun in Outland due to the setting and theme. They were a horrible thing to support in WotLK, they ruined a lot of the mystery and wonder of Classic zones when it all had to be revamped to support them, and Pandaria is absolutely not ground-mount friendly.
I would much rather be grounded and stay grounded
. Please, it's time to end flying mounts with Pandaria. Keep us grounded in the future. If you INSIST on keeping up with flying mounts going forward, leave it to specific zones in the new content. Don't make everything support it. It's stupid.
But if the option to fly is there, it's annoying knowing that I'm grounded. I was cool the first time in Pandaria, but honestly I hate leveling alts because of how ridiculously unfriendly Pandaria is to ground-mounts. If the continent was exclusively for ground mounts, I'd be happy because I wouldn't be getting nagged in the back of my mind that life would be 10x easier if I could fly like my main.
Archaeologists have no way to get to the Seat of Knowledge before level 90. My warrior was leveling Archaeology throughout Pandaria as he levels, and I've had to pay people numerous times to fly me there for all of my turn-ins. No, the little dragon on the bottom level of the Shrine provides no options. You need quests to use it, archaeologists are excluded.
With the Quick and the Dead practically useless, dying in Pandaria is so painful to return to. The graveyard placement is absolutely terrible, and I feel like I'm making the Molten Core run all over again. If we didn't get 2 full years of this guild perk, I don't think I (or anyone else) would really care about the nerf. But you gave us something and took it away out of the blue. Yeah, not fun.
flying mounts and without
flying ghosts...? Well, sorry you died to that rare spawn guarded by fast respawning elites. Spirit rez and try again in 10 minutes!
The terrain, while beautiful, is immensely inconvenient in several zones. It takes ages to get anywhere in Jade Forest or Kun-Lai Summit without a flier because the zones are full of mountains and cliffs. It's beautiful
, but knowing that some people (or my main) can fly, but my alt cannot? Really irritating. I'd be happy with such complicated terrain if it was designed exclusively for ground mounts in mind.
You either need to do a full pass on terrain in this expansion and add in more reasonable paths, less ridiculously clustered camps that block entire sections of the zone unless you blindly charge through, and give us methods to reach areas that require flying mounts without one, or give us the flying tomes. I'm not enjoying leveling grounded alts when I know other people are flying.
And stop beating around the bush and give ghost flying. Sorry, but there's absolutely no reason why you need to preserve the "feel" of the world when the player is dead. The last thing I care about when I'm running back to my body is how beautiful those falling leaves from that tree is. No. I'll look at that when I'm alive. The only thing that comes to my mind when I'm dead is, "wow I wish they'd revert this stupid guild perk change" and "where is my body?", or "hey look, I need to take rez sickness due to terrible graveyard placement".
-Flying mounts are stupid. Stop supporting them.
-If you are going to support them, stop restricting them.
-Quit pretending that Pandaria is ground-mount friendly. While beautiful and exciting, it's a disaster trying to go anywhere and several areas are inaccessible.
-Graveyard placement is bad and the devs are grossly underestimating how many areas you can get stuck in without ghost fliers. Nobody cares about the beauty of the game when they're dead. This isn't classic where you graveyard run to different zones. The guild perk change and the lack of ghost fliers provides absolutely nothing positive to the experience. Nothing.
[No, I'm not mad bros. I just wanted to make my stance perfectly crystal clear. :D ]