Blizzard You gotta nerf Frost BOMB!

90 Draenei Shaman
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Just nerf Frost bomb, ppl should play arcane or fire if they want to pve as a mage.
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90 Worgen Hunter
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11/15/2012 07:03 PMPosted by Marcellena
The best solution is to nerf mage to the ground though this is not going to happen as ghostcrawler mains a mage.


And they should make a class unplayable because...?


Like they did hunters due to the mass qq and a bugged skill?
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90 Human Mage
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11/16/2012 11:52 AMPosted by Talva


And they should make a class unplayable because...?


Like they did hunters due to the mass qq and a bugged skill?


That is a terrible, terrible argument. Nerfing any class into the ground is asinine and stupid.
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100 Night Elf Druid
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in fact nothign should be critting anyone for more than 75k. Anything criting over 75K is over powered and should be capped on players. Burst is the worst i have ever expirienced, and the worst part is that Blizz is not fixing it. Waiting for patch after patch for pvp adjustments sucks!

Couldn't agree more with that. They said MoP PvP would be more about skill and less about lolol mongoloid burst like cataclysm. I can't see anything close to this being true right now.
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90 Human Death Knight
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11/16/2012 01:03 PMPosted by Finkllestein
in fact nothign should be critting anyone for more than 75k. Anything criting over 75K is over powered and should be capped on players. Burst is the worst i have ever expirienced, and the worst part is that Blizz is not fixing it. Waiting for patch after patch for pvp adjustments sucks!

Couldn't agree more with that. They said MoP PvP would be more about skill and less about lolol mongoloid burst like cataclysm. I can't see anything close to this being true right now.


Made another post about crit damage reduction
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if you have pvp gear,then frost bomb would hit you for no more then 40k crits.
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100 Dwarf Hunter
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11/16/2012 03:22 PMPosted by Raw
if you have pvp gear,then frost bomb would hit you for no more then 40k crits.


Thats not what the vast amounts of vids of mage burst show
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100 Goblin Mage
STL
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Nerf healing then. You need big damage hits when you target is running around with 3 HoTs and 15 buffs on them.
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90 Human Rogue
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The best solution is to nerf mage to the ground though this is not going to happen as ghostcrawler mains a mage.


And they should make a class unplayable because...?


They shouldn't, that's what's happening to Rogues right now and it's terrible. I don't even have a mage, but I'd be really annoyed to see this move nerfed severely. A 40% damage reduction would damage PvE viability, which isn't even OP's intention. The Glyph is arguable, fast detonation is definitely a major advantage, so I guess that could be worked with if need be.
Edited by Carroway on 11/16/2012 6:47 PM PST
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90 Pandaren Monk
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11/16/2012 03:22 PMPosted by Raw
if you have pvp gear,then frost bomb would hit you for no more then 40k crits.


Sure, if the mage is in full Magister's. It's pretty uncommon to see a frost bomb crit below 70k. Try using freezes, I heard your mastery might be kind of good.
Edited by Sajepanda on 11/16/2012 6:58 PM PST
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90 Pandaren Priest
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11/15/2012 05:51 PMPosted by Marcellena
Both of those suggestions are awful because they would hurt frost's pve damage. The best solution is to make frost bomb not scale with Frost's mastery, and then compensate frost somewhere else.


Mages are at the head of the pack in PvE right now, aside from Affliction Warlocks, so I really doubt the implications to Mage PvE would be too severe to warrant a nerf to the spell for PvP reasons.
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90 Human Death Knight
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Both of those suggestions are awful because they would hurt frost's pve damage. The best solution is to make frost bomb not scale with Frost's mastery, and then compensate frost somewhere else.


Mages are at the head of the pack in PvE right now, aside from Affliction Warlocks, so I really doubt the implications to Mage PvE would be too severe to warrant a nerf to the spell for PvP reasons.


This. plus Frost bomb is not in their rotation from what I could tell on single Bosses in PvE

Also Frost Mages mastery needs a rework and Glyph of Fire Blast removed from PvP.

Who came up with the idea of giving AOE a superior single target damage?
Edited by Reiñhart on 11/19/2012 11:14 PM PST
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90 Human Warrior
BnR
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11/15/2012 07:00 PMPosted by Vaega
The best solution is to nerf mage to the ground though this is not going to happen as ghostcrawler mains a mage.

I'd pay 100 bucks paypal for someone to link his REAL Mage armory, not even kidding.
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90 Human Warrior
BnR
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Actually there was a video series done a few years ago on Blizzard.com and Ghostcrawler was on there talking about his Warrior in Vanilla. Can't seem to find the video as it's not archived but he totally admitted it :P. He also admitted to playing a Hunter too (I swore it was an Orc) and believe it or not a Druid. Scouts honor, look up on the forum archive (before the new design) in the beta section it was totally there.

Maybe someone else knows where the video had ended up.
Edited by Kìmmie on 11/20/2012 1:24 AM PST
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90 Night Elf Druid
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11/15/2012 05:51 PMPosted by Marcellena
Both of those suggestions are awful because they would hurt frost's pve damage. The best solution is to make frost bomb not scale with Frost's mastery, and then compensate frost somewhere else.


Nerf how pvp power scales with frost bomb instead.
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90 Worgen Druid
0
11/20/2012 01:22 AMPosted by Kìmmie
Ghostcrawler was on there talking about his Warrior


なるほどなw
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95 Goblin Mage
8360
-Remove glyph of fire blast
-Make fire and arcane functionality that this glyph provided baseline for the respective specs
-Sorry, no. Frost doesn't need any compensation. However, since mage tears usually flood any forum even at the height of their overpoweredness, as a compromise just make the frost bomb dot ticks aoe, lower dmg, last longer.
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100 Undead Warlock
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11/15/2012 07:15 PMPosted by Narrow
nothign should be critting anyone for more than 75k.


I'm all for this if it includes heals.
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MVP
90 Human Mage
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11/19/2012 11:12 PMPosted by Reiñhart
This. plus Frost bomb is not in their rotation from what I could tell on single Bosses in PvE


It is. Using it on cooldown is very high up on the single-target rotation priority list.

All three bombs are very similar for single-target DPS (essential so that all three talents are viable options). For AOE purposes, Frost Bomb lags behind the other two until about 6+ targets, at which point it takes the lead.
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