Dissonance Fields on Shek'zeer

90 Gnome Priest
17635
Anyone else notice that the damage from this seems to pierce absorbs now?

Either bug or stealth hotfix. Probably the latter.

/mourn
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90 Undead Rogue
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The soaking or the explosion?
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90 Tauren Priest
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Yea, you took 0 healing while you were inside, and I guess absorbs effectively healed you.

I think it's a pretty fair fix, even if it nerfs us good.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
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I noticed that it changed so that I couldn't stack spirit shell or proc any divine aegis on someone who was already in the dissonance last week, where I could the first week. I was still able to cast PWS for some reason though, and it seemed like absorbs and hots present before going into the dissonance field still worked until they ran out. Has it been changed again this week?

They really need to quit with the stealth hotfixes, once we get a strategy working they should at the very least tell us that it's going to be broken the next time we attempt the boss so we can work something different out.
Edited by Sotanaht on 11/18/2012 2:39 PM PST
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90 Blood Elf Priest
14860
It has done this since day one.
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90 Gnome Priest
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I noticed that it changed so that I couldn't stack spirit shell or proc any divine aegis on someone who was already in the dissonance last week, where I could the first week. I was still able to cast PWS for some reason though, and it seemed like absorbs and hots present before going into the dissonance field still worked until they ran out. Has it been changed again this week?

They really need to quit with the stealth hotfixes, once we get a strategy working they should at the very least tell us that it's going to be broken the next time we attempt the boss so we can work something different out.


On our first kill of her, I could cast PW:S on targets inside Dissonance Fields. Any damage taken by the target (Cry of Terror at the very least, not sure about Dread Screech) was absorbed by the target before his health gets touched.

This week, I could still cast PW:S on targets inside Dissonance Fields. However, damage taken by the target (same) seems to ignore the shield. I've tested it with guildies or myself absorbing (PW:S cast before or after entering). The player's health goes down without breaking the shield. I watched carefully and he went from full to 50% and ran out of Dissonance Field with PW:S still intact on him (tested again with myself going in reaching the same results).

It's sad cause I wish we knew ahead of time that this was hotfixed. We still downed her but it was after a few wipes of us wondering why the target inside was taking so much more damage than the previous week (with me in charge of watching their healths). This was one of the few instances I considered using Divine Insight as Disc. Hehe. Not essential by any means but it helped keep players with Cry of Terror inside Dissonance Fields longer.

I was not able to sufficiently test Spirit Shell if it had the same results.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
14860
It wasn't hotfixed. Here are some log entries from the first week:

[19:22:18.667] Coogz afflicted by Dissonance Field from Dissonance Field
[19:22:19.503] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:19.605] Affinitii casts Power Word: Shield on Coogz
[19:22:19.920] Unknown Cry of Terror Coogz Absorb (47029)
[19:22:19.920] Coogz gains Power Word: Shield from Affinitii (Remaining: 93357)
[19:22:20.270] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:21.541] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:21.886] Unknown Cry of Terror Coogz Absorb (48924)
[19:22:22.414] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:23.545] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:23.545] Unknown Cry of Terror Coogz Absorb (48878)
[19:22:24.385] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:25.419] Grand Empress Shek'zeer's Cry of Terror fades from Coogz
[19:22:25.527] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:22:25.529] Unknown Cry of Terror Coogz Absorb (48322)
[19:22:27.029] Dissonance Field's Dissonance Field fades from Coogz
[19:22:34.239] Unknown Cry of Terror Coogz Absorb (47503)
[19:22:34.915] Affinitii's Power Word: Shield fades from Coogz (Remaining: 93357)

It happens when you cast Power Word: Shield on them when they're already in the dissonance field.
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90 Human Priest
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^what he said. Cast PW:S (and pain supp) on people in the fields, but don't cast spirit shell or aegis on people. Save spirit shell and aegis tricks for people with the buff when no fields are up.
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90 Goblin Priest
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11/18/2012 07:02 PMPosted by Maladii
It has done this since day one

No it hasn't, absorbs were a great way to have someone in the bubble survive longer without having to run out for heals. It worked for us last night approx 22hrs ago still, if it doesnt work now hotfix must have come in sometime within last 22hrs
Edited by Psudo on 11/19/2012 12:05 AM PST
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90 Blood Elf Priest
14860
It has done this since day one

No it hasn't, absorbs were a great way to have someone in the bubble survive longer without having to run out for heals. It worked for us last night approx 22hrs ago still, if it doesnt work now hotfix must have come in sometime within last 22hrs


I posted log entries showing that it happened the very first week the boss was live. Here's a better one though:

[19:23:03.432] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:23:03.432] Nodoez's Illuminated Healing fades from Coogz (Remaining: 0)
[19:23:03.432] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Coogz 10438 (A: 19687)
[19:23:03.856] Affinitii casts Power Word: Shield on Coogz
[19:23:04.205] Coogz gains Power Word: Shield from Affinitii (Remaining: 93357)
[19:23:04.609] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:23:04.609] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Coogz Absorb (30646)
[19:23:05.476] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:23:05.502] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Coogz Absorb (30643)
[19:23:05.783] Coogz gains Illuminated Healing from Nodoez (Remaining: 0)
[19:23:06.585] Coogz's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[19:23:06.585] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Coogz 30148
[19:23:08.086] Dissonance Field's Dissonance Field fades from Coogz
[19:23:08.175] Coogz's Illuminated Healing is refreshed by Nodoez (Remaining: 0)
[19:23:09.487] Dissonance Field Sonic Discharge Coogz 223367
[19:23:10.630] Coogz's Illuminated Healing is refreshed by Nodoez (Remaining: 2146)
[19:23:11.027] Coogz gains Illuminated Healing from Ehcrol (Remaining: 12127)
[19:23:12.228] Coogz's Illuminated Healing is refreshed by Ehcrol (Remaining: 35024)
[19:23:12.322] Nodoez's Illuminated Healing fades from Coogz (Remaining: 0)
[19:23:13.048] Coogz gains Illuminated Healing from Nodoez (Remaining: 4422)
[19:23:14.328] Nodoez's Illuminated Healing fades from Coogz (Remaining: 0)
[19:23:14.328] Affinitii's Power Word: Shield fades from Coogz (Remaining: 0)

As you can see, the Power Word: Shield was cast after Coogz was in the dissonance field. Coogz then took damage from both Dissonance Field and a Sonic Discharge while the Power Word: Shield buff was active (as in, the damage was not absorbed). The Power Word: Shield was not depleted until 4 seconds after the completely unmitigated hit at 19:23:09.487. So, feel free to explain how this was the result of a hotfix in the last 24 hours when this log is from the very first week Empress was available.
Edited by Maladii on 11/19/2012 2:23 AM PST
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90 Gnome Priest
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These are our logs from our first kill:

[22:03:07.750] Kurndles afflicted by Dissonance Field from Dissonance Field
[22:03:07.750] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles 11491 (A: 13456)
[22:03:08.968] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:08.968] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles 25815
[22:03:09.781] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:09.781] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles 26000
[22:03:09.859] Moringa casts Power Word: Shield on Kurndles
[22:03:10.171] Kurndles gains Power Word: Shield from Moringa (Remaining: 94962)
[22:03:10.968] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:10.968] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles Absorb (24898)
[22:03:11.765] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:11.765] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles Absorb (25512)
[22:03:12.984] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:12.984] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles Absorb (25058)
[22:03:13.843] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:13.843] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles Absorb (25944)
[22:03:15.000] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:15.000] Moringa's Power Word: Shield fades from Kurndles (Remaining: 0)

[22:03:15.000] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles 10562 (A: 14908)
[22:03:15.812] Kurndles's Dissonance Field is refreshed by Dissonance Field
[22:03:15.812] Dissonance Field Dissonance Field Kurndles 20666
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[22:03:27.328] Dissonance Field's Dissonance Field fades from Kurndles

As you can see, I cast PW:S on him after he went inside and the damage was absorbed by the shield rather than taken by his health. It appears though that the damage is from Dissonance Field itself. Absorbs were taking the damage before whereas they do not seem to be now.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
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http://www.wowhead.com/spell=123788

Cry of terror hits your allies, unless you are in the field. The dissonance field acts as a silence for this ability. So the reason you are not seeing it absorb cry of terror is because the person is in the field, and therefore not taking damage from the cry. If you shield someone before they go in(while the cry is still pulsing) then it absorbs the damage, however this damage does not exist inside the field.

PW:S is a go in the field, but you cannot stack SS or get Aegis Procs. I'm assuming this is because they are not direct absorbs, but rather modifications of heals. You will also notice you do not get any procs off your PW:S glyph on a person in the field.

TLDR: When people are debuffed in a field they only take dmg from the field. That is why shields are only absorbing dmg from the field.

I believe this is what you are asking about.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
14860
I think it's a bug related to Illuminated Healing. I had a longer post that didn't go through for some reason going in to more detail, but yea, that's basically it I think. Seems like when Illuminated Healing is active with a value of 0, it blocks other absorbs from being used. That's my guess anyway.
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90 Gnome Priest
17635
It's possible. I think I'll do further testing the next time I get to fight her (will miss this coming week due to work).
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90 Worgen Priest
8035
Speaking of weird things going on with the dissonance field, I've noticed that if I void shift someone inside the field, then my health will go down to there level, but they won't be healed at all.

Rather frustrating.
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