Topic Compiled Arcane FAQ from Blatty (Method)
Edited by Gravitation on 12/7/12 11:09 AM (PST)
With everyone saying fire has been killed Blatty decided to find out. He plans to raid everything with arcane then frost... then compare the damage with the fire mages in raid. Go go scumbag dps!
http://www.twitch.tv/blatty <STREAM LIVE - HOF>
build - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twisting-nether/Blatty/simple
logs - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-1ris21bo1f1lnryh/
Questions he keeps getting...
What is the best spec? - He is testing out arcane at the moment and will then test frost. Until then he won't know for certain what the "best" spec is.
WHOA IS ARCANE THE BEST?? LETS ALL GO ARCANE! - It's only been a few days since the nerf... every boss has to be tested w/ the other specs to know for certain.
So is fire screwed now? - Stop asking... fire is still performing very well. It's more RNG than ever. If you have average gear you'll do bad DPS. This is why people with sub-optimal gear are complaining. If you getting close to BIS gear then fire is still great.
Why are you using ROP and not Invocation? - Arcane is all about mana regen, ROP is superior because it is constant mana regen.
Why are you stacking up haste? - for his current gear set up 500+ simulation craft is weighing haste as heavier. He is currently testing mastery stacking.
Well then why are you using mage armor instead of frost? - 3000(10%) mastery is still better than 7% haste.
So you're testing mastery... and? - only one boss fight so far and had a 15% haste buff so can't say yet. Wait until I do a single target boss. Mastery looks to better. It is more difficult to keep high mana with mastery, people saying to go haste are probably having issues with mana control. Mastery stacking is elite mode.
Why don't you use Arcane Power Glyph? - it is impossible to keep up high mana for that long so it is broken.
What is your mana regen rotation? - losing your charges is bad bad bad. I'm going to try scorching if I am below 80% mana, 6 stacks, and no arcane missiles procs.
Are these results reliable? - this is the first raid he's used arcane since cata so expect higher results than what's showing since fire has been played since day 1 of expansion. This is a big experiment and he's been swapping talents and adjusting strats.
How do you do such OP aoe damage? - Nether Tempest on all adds and keep stacks up with arcane missile spam. DO NOT ARCANE EXPLOSION (noob)
How do you do movement as arcane (lei chi "get away") Scorch and every 2 casts arcane barrage. Do NOT spam scorch. Barrage does significantly more damage.
Can you please post your OP macro again? - #showtooltip Alter Time /use Mana Gem /use Brilliant Mana Gem /use 10 /use Arcane Power /use Icy Veins /use Berserking /cast Presence of Mind /cast Alter Time /cast Pyroblast /cast Arcane Blast /cast Frostbolt
Is it more important to proc both trinkets before AT macro or is one up ok? - It's important to have both up. Having one or none up is very bad and wrong.
Can you tell us your opening? - AB till 6 charges, then AB if less than 2 arcane missile procs and or missing one of your trinket procs... if you go below 85% mana spam scorch till 2nd missiles proc... then hit OP macro... during 6 second AT ---> (cast AB > missiles > AB > missiles (AB if you have time) + BARRAGE) ---> when alter time ends resume AB > missiles > AB > missiles > normal rotation
What about your normal rotation? - It's all about staying above 80% mana with 6 stacks up. I am currently testing scorch weaving to regain mana but do not know if this is yet better than using arcane barrage.
Why Tailoring and Engineering? - One gives a big int buff and the other has a big on use proc. Both are hugely important, especially in conjunction with AT.
Results so far
Protectors - Overall fire still won out due to cleave though comparing his results just on single target damage he was #1.
Tsulong - Started off around 10th overall, adjusted strategy and now fighting for #1 spot. Better pre-cast of ROP, swapped scorch --> ice floes, swapped temporal shield --> blazing speed. http://cl.ly/image/0d040t021A3B
Lei Shei - Did really well on Lei Shi... but it's only one sampling so take this with a grain of salt. http://cl.ly/image/0v3k313b3S2y
Sha of Fear - hard to tell since skada is bugged but damage output still looking good.
Edited by Schizophreni on 12/2/12 10:43 AM (PST)
Yea I know, but it's just awful to watch. All that lost time out of rune from moving, having to place it constantly only to see it be interrupted for use by something.
Arcane might be ok for Tsulong, but besides that Wind Lord, Gara and Elegon there's no way it can be effective.
Wait until phase 2. Also this is his first raid as arcane since start of expansion. He's sticking up there vs fire mages who have been fire this entire time... also it's phase 1 which has a lot of movement.
Fire will always beat arcane on protectors just to fire cleave being part of the rotation. I went in and looked at Kaolan damage only and he was top for the first and 2nd attempt then fell behind on their actual kill just due to bad play (he even said this himself).
Lei Shi should be interesting.