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Any news yet? :P

They are scheduled to raid today. Blatty switched from all haste stack to all mastery. So we'll see how his diips do on Sha of Fear.

I made the switch to haste stacked arcane and hit the dummies last night. Not bad at all. Moderately easy to keep 6 stacks up and 80% mana. In a burst I got up to 120k dps solo buffed.

It will be interesting to see what it's like in raid now that the name of the game is absolute non-movement.

Also I raided last night as fire and still managed to stay at the top of raid DPS. Fire isn't as nerfed as people are saying. It's definitely not the wide margin that I had before. Pre-nerf I could pull out 6-10 million more damage than the #2. I agree that that is probably not balanced.

With that said I think arcane is still going to come out on top overall now and I'm welcoming the change. Fire was a lot of fun but switching gears is not a big deal.

so been testing out haste stacking myself as arcane and seems to be doing alright with the high mana regen as well. Still not sure which armour I should use though, anyone reckon frost armour if haste stacked or still mage armour?

Gravitation, I think the main concern with fire is at lower gear levels than yours. But the method fire mages yesterday were putting up good numbers.

It's going to be very rough to play fire as a fresh 90 or even somebody like me in the 470ish range with entry level epics.

More generally it seems to me this whole CM design is an accident waiting to happen. It ought to be a flat buff to crit imo, not a scalable one. That is going to lead to problems both at the low and high ends. I can imagine that even at 1.25 it is possible for it to get out of hand by the end of the expansion. Yet if it is brought down further, that will punish mages at the lower end of the gear scale even more.

Smooth it out. 3 expansions running and Blizz still hasn't quite figured out how to get fire out of this feast or famine issue with crit and fire.

Ceth i don't think anyone yet has a definitive answer on that right now. Simcraft weighting puts mage armor as better because it comes out to roughly a 10% increase to mastery while frost armor is 7% haste.

10% mastery is better than 7% haste - in theory

yea I was leaning still towards mage armour as well due to the greater buff it gives, I guess only time will tell. Cheers for the answer

Deerde, if you look at Cata fire had a gear check. It wasn't great for mages with entry level gear until you hit a minimum crit requirement. I do not think this is a vast departure.

It's a bit premature for them to be dropping the nerf hammer on crit scaling. Though if our rate of crit increase held up we would be approaching 100% crit by end of expansion.

Oh the gear check issue goes all the way back to Wrath. As does the potential for crit to blow up at end of an expansion. (Raid buffed fire mages were hitting 75% crit rates by ICC and doing stupid damage. But early on the spec was junk.) Nothing new here at all. I just think this whole issue ought to be put to rest once and for all.

Deerde perhaps you're right. Who knows what their design intent is.

Nihilum is raiding right now - http://www.twitch.tv/kungentv

Sfougz the mage is raiding arcane stacking mastery and just got #1 on Tsulong.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Sfougz/simple

They just benched 2 of the 4 mages for doing bad DPS. 30k spread between Sfougz and the other 3 mages. Two of the 3 mages were arcane... Only one of them was fire and he was the lowest dps of the raid.

Just goes to show you how good Blatty is. What he was doing yesterday on Tsulong is not easy.

Damn I missed the live vid yesterday :( is there going to be another on soon? I am very curious on how Arcane and Fire is going to turn out in raiding with all the changes going on.

Method is streaming in 30 minutes, nihilum is streaming right now

Kungen's UI is a mess lol.

LOL yes it is

Sfougz is rocking it. Incendo...is barely hanging to his raid spot.

I am wondering if anyone here knows how do you separate the 2 recounts? One for damage and one for healing? Also the cooldown box below... is that also recount or a different addon?

The funniest part is, locks are now top3 in most fights, its good for me because im looking for a core now, and my realm have a lot of reccount players(mages) XD. Hard to play and making DPS will reduce the mage count for a nice %, like locks on cata. =)

He's wrecking meters with Arcane. It's kind of ridiculous.

He's 10 million ahead in damage over anybody else right now WTF.

135k dps at end of attempt. 2nd was a lock with 115k dps. LOL.