Heroic Starshatter Vs Normal Shin'ka

90 Goblin Death Knight
9595
I don't understand how people are saying that a Heroic Starshatter is better than a normal Shin'ka, Execution of Dominion. The stats of the Crystallized Terror way exceed the Starshatter that doesn't have a socket. Expertise at the high end gear is really not needed rendering the expertise on the Starshatter virtually useless, especially if you are an Orc. The mastery is much more beneficial even though it is one of our lower stats. Valor upgrades don't really make much difference seeing how the scaling doesn't change. +500 strength is still invaluable. Not only this but when you get the second Legendary gem, you will then just have wasted 1500 valor upgrading your Starshatter.

If I'm wrong, someone please explain why.
Edited by Gobbykon on 12/3/2012 2:11 AM PST
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67 Human Warrior
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Would weapon dps not have a massive effect, given obliterate is guaged from base damage and starshatter (16608-20412, 4725 dps) well and truly beats the normal shin'ka (12868-19302, 4468.1 dps) in that area
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90 Gnome Death Knight
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with a crystal its an increase of 440 str.

Weapon dps is worth ~3 str per 1 dps. so 250 weapon dps is ~750 str worth. Starshatter also has expertise instead of mastery which is a far better secondary stat and in most cases would lead to DKs being able to get more str or haste instead.

so you're basically trading 440 str for 250 wdps (750 str), 815 mastery -> 716 expertise (200str)

so shinka actually needs an extra 510 str after its been gemmed to be better.

Heroic starshatter will also scale better with valor upgrades because it is higher ilvl.

remember a small amount of str plays a rather trivial role in the dmg of diseases and howling blast. The main value of it comes from its ability to raise weapon damage which weapon damage does directly believe it or not.
Edited by Aldmos on 12/3/2012 4:27 AM PST
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4 Undead Mage
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jackbauer always has something smart to say
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55 Goblin Death Knight
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12/03/2012 05:58 AMPosted by Isconic
jackbauer always has something smart to say


Cute.

Don't hide behind that alt, it's not gonna help you any.
Edited by Jäckßäuer on 12/8/2012 11:14 AM PST
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90 Human Death Knight
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with a crystal its an increase of 440 str.

Weapon dps is worth ~3 str per 1 dps. so 250 weapon dps is ~750 str worth. Starshatter also has expertise instead of mastery which is a far better secondary stat and in most cases would lead to DKs being able to get more str or haste instead.

so you're basically trading 440 str for 250 wdps (750 str), 815 mastery -> 716 expertise (200str)

so shinka actually needs an extra 510 str after its been gemmed to be better.

Heroic starshatter will also scale better with valor upgrades because it is higher ilvl.

remember a small amount of str plays a rather trivial role in the dmg of diseases and howling blast. The main value of it comes from its ability to raise weapon damage which weapon damage does directly believe it or not.


Everything this little guy said is true

I own both weapons a normal Shin'ka and the Heroic Starshatter (upgraded via VP to 510 ilvl) and the second one is waaay better (human +1 expertise racial with swords helps on that)
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1233346-Heroic-Starshatter-Vs-Normal-Shin-ka

which is the copy pasta is my question?

Funny StuFFzz
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