Mages just aren't fun anymore

90 Human Warrior
11955
11/29/2012 10:43 AMPosted by Shabayev
noxxic


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU


11/29/2012 10:43 AMPosted by Naishee
You linked to Noxxic, which everybody worth their salt know is completely worthless, in every way.


http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Terrace_of_Endless_Spring/dps/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Heart_of_Fear/dps/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Mogu%27shan_Vaults/dps/

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200031443?page=1

This guy pretty much summed up the flaws in current DPS.
Edited by Austol on 11/29/2012 10:56 AM PST
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90 Blood Elf Mage
11670
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Terrace_of_Endless_Spring/dps/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Heart_of_Fear/dps/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Mogu%27shan_Vaults/dps/

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200031443?page=1

This guy pretty much summed up the flaws in current DPS.

You mean the fact that tanks top DPS on several fights (when looking at heroic modes at least)? Yeah, that is a big flaw. It's silly that tank damage is higher than what you get from the actual DPS.
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90 Human Warrior
11955
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Terrace_of_Endless_Spring/dps/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Heart_of_Fear/dps/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Mogu%27shan_Vaults/dps/

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200031443?page=1

This guy pretty much summed up the flaws in current DPS.

You mean the fact that tanks top DPS on several fights (when looking at heroic modes at least)? Yeah, that is a big flaw. It's silly that tank damage is higher than what you get from the actual DPS.


I guess you ignored the big bold statement at the bottom and all the evidence prior to it. Here, I'll just post it for you.

2. Mage's need to be de-tuned (Caster's in general)...melee classes have to forfeit a TON of their statistics to get Hit AND Expertise capped. Where caster's do not. Caster's also even at cap do not have to worry that even with 2550 stats into Expertise that their shots will be parried. (Esp. in fights where you are required to stack on the tank in the front of the boss for melee) Which in my opinion if I have 2550 Exp I want to be parry capped as well as Dodge capped...as a melee we sacrifice a lot of prime stats to get both of these capped to still have attacks deflected.

Sort this out for me as to why Mage's are still the number one class...still capable of topping DPS easier than any other class on any kind of fight with any kind of mechanic. What makes them so strong? So overpowered? And why can this not be de-tuned properly or why can't melee be tuned properly? And for the love of god can Tanks not do 2-3x the DPS of DPS classes?

Mages - taking no skill to play since WOTLK http://i.imgur.com/ZPec1.jpg
Edited by Austol on 11/29/2012 11:12 AM PST
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90 Blood Elf Mage
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I guess you ignored the big bold statement at the bottom and all the evidence prior to it. Here, I'll just post it for you.

Mages - taking no skill to play since WOTLK http://i.imgur.com/ZPec1.jpg

The damage spread has what to do with skill? Any mage who isn't clueless will tell you Arcane was harder than Fire in Cata. Yet Fire had a much bigger damage spread. Damage spread tells you nothing about how hard/easy something is to play.
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68 Pandaren Monk
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Try playing other classes and see how bad they have it, derp.

I can't believe I'm seeing a mage QQ. This class has been labeled as the 'no skill' class for a reason.[

[quote="71987853986"]Try playing other classes and see how bad they have it, derp.

I can't believe I'm seeing a mage QQ. This class has been labeled as the 'no skill' class for a reason.


You are the only one I see crying
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If you were playing a lot of LFR or normal/heroic raids in Cataclysm and is decked out in the previous tiered gear, you will notice a drop in DPS when you switch to MoP gears (you need to do this to qualify for dungeons/LFR etc).

The set bonus from tiered gear is pretty nice compared to the starting/questing drops you're getting. Once you start getting gear from heroic dungeons/JP vendors however, you'll see amazing DPS numbers on your toon.

This happens to all types of toons, not just mages. I see the same thing from my Warlock and Warrior too.
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Thanks to those of you who were informative and gave me advice, much appreciated :-) I expected some flames in here, and I just ignore 'em. It seems no one can have a discussion without some people trolling/flaming, etc... But to those who responded like a mature adult, thank you -- you've given me my hope back for my favorite character, and I'll keep trying to get better :-)

Thanks again!
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90 Worgen Mage
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11/29/2012 10:11 AMPosted by Garadine

I'm a PvPer since when? I have done 12 Arena matches total. Won 8, lost 4. And that's it.

Fail troll is fail? Go get to level 56 already!

Oh, and I did those Arena matches in Cata. As Arcane. So... Yeah ;)


37000 HK's and you call yourself a PvE'er? LOL

You've spent at least hundreds of hours racking that up.


I have about 37000 HK's and hate pvp, Loathe it actually. I have never run a serious pvp team, never done rbg's. I have however raided since BC, I am a pve'er.
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