Solar Beam-1; Shaman-0

90 Draenei Shaman
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:'(
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90 Draenei Shaman
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I had a group with solar beam and vortex, GG all over the !@#$ing place fun to watch youself die and now with the new stunned interface look you get to SEE how useless you really are now.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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idk what i can do against solar beam.

okay, getting interrupted sucks, but you can juke or cast another school..

solar beam... i think it is the single greatest counter to shamans right now.

we cant freedom totem out of root solar beam, we cant ground the incoming burst, we cant ghostwolf out, we cant use any school f attack or heal...

cant ground solar beam..

radius of solar beam was increased :(
Edited by Jkspiritlink on 11/29/2012 9:46 AM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
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Welcome to what Priests/Monks have been dealing with all expack I guess? -.-

Solar Beam sucks to play against. It's why I try to carry a druid around with me in pvp. Earthgrab -> Solarbeam -> Capacitor is absolutely nasty.
Edited by Gistwiki on 11/29/2012 12:06 PM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
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Welcome to being every other healer that isn't a Paladin (freaking bubble >.>) I guess? -.-


LIAR!

pallys can AM, bubble, freecast

druids can shapeshift out instantly.

we are now the most vulnerable to cc. it hurts. we're worse off than hpallys have every been against everything that isnt fear.
Edited by Jkspiritlink on 11/29/2012 11:26 AM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 11:23 AMPosted by Jkspiritlink
druids can shapeshift out instantly


Can't shapeshift while silenced I thought? I will admit I forgot about AM, but they have to precast the AM b/c they can't AM while silenced (or if they get them mid-cast it'll be locked out.)

I know they can symbi a mage for an iceblock, but I didn't figure that counted >.>

11/29/2012 11:23 AMPosted by Jkspiritlink
we are now the most vulnerable to cc.


Everyone forgets holy priests. Everyone! :(
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 11:31 AMPosted by Gistwiki
Can't shapeshift while silenced I thought?


can always shapeshift unless locked out of arcane tree.

11/29/2012 11:31 AMPosted by Gistwiki
Everyone forgets holy priests. Everyone! :(


no. we're still more vulnerable than holy priests...

SW:D blinds/repents/scatters/sheeps and can cast gaurdian spirit while stunned.

shaman nope.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 11:51 AMPosted by Jkspiritlink
we're still more vulnerable than holy priests...


No healer is more vulnerable in pvp than a holy priest. They're the elemental shaman of healers >.>

11/29/2012 11:51 AMPosted by Jkspiritlink
can always shapeshift unless locked out of arcane tree.


It's in the physical school. Can't imagine that locking them out of the arcane tree would lock physical school spells. The actual point is well taken. Well, I guess I'll have to amend it to welcome to what priests and monks have been dealing with all expack >.>
Edited by Gistwiki on 11/29/2012 12:04 PM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 12:00 PMPosted by Gistwiki
Nothing is more vulnerable in pvp than a holy priest. They're the elemental shaman of healers >.>


not even close.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 12:02 PMPosted by Jkspiritlink
Nothing is more vulnerable in pvp than a holy priest. They're the elemental shaman of healers >.>


not even close.


By a country mile. I'll give you that they have GS, but even that's not a deterrent to tunneling them into the ground.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
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11/29/2012 11:51 AMPosted by Jkspiritlink
SW:D blinds/repents/scatters/sheeps

Not seeing how that makes them not vulnerable to being focused.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 12:05 PMPosted by Gistwiki
By a country mile. I'll give you that they have GS, but even that's not a deterrent to tunneling them into the ground.


GS + void shift

2 huge cooldowns available. and holy priests are actually ridiculously good in RBGS.

and the point isnt arguing vulnerability to dying, its vulnerability to CC

we have a fear break every minute, and nothing else. which is way way way wya way way way less than holy priest.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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SW:D blinds/repents/scatters/sheeps

Not seeing how that makes them not vulnerable to being focused.


Ehhhh. SW:D self-damage is negligible at best when coming from a healer. However, nobody is going to blind/repent/scatter/sheep/fear a holy priest because they're too busy tunneling their buttocks into the ground.

11/29/2012 12:08 PMPosted by Jkspiritlink
GS + void shift


Void Shifted a friendly while at 20%? Still easier to kill the holy priest than it is to kill their 20% hp teammate ;)
Edited by Gistwiki on 11/29/2012 12:09 PM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 11:23 AMPosted by Jkspiritlink
we are now the most vulnerable to cc.


11/29/2012 12:06 PMPosted by Chillbros
Not seeing how that makes them not vulnerable to being focused.


read the thread you silly pver.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
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11/29/2012 12:08 PMPosted by Gistwiki
However, nobody is going to blind/repent/scatter/sheep/fear a holy priest because they're too busy tunneling their buttocks into the ground.

That's kind of what I was getting at.
11/29/2012 12:09 PMPosted by Jkspiritlink
read the thread you silly pver.

MY BAD
Edited by Chillbros on 11/29/2012 12:10 PM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 12:08 PMPosted by Gistwiki
However, nobody is going to blind/repent/scatter/sheep/fear a holy priest because they're too busy tunneling their buttocks into the ground.


they will do all those things, especially blind to get off stun dr...

do you not pvp at all?
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90 Undead Warlock
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11/29/2012 12:08 PMPosted by Jkspiritlink
2 huge cooldowns available. and holy priests are actually ridiculously good in RBGS.


I believe u said to me once "Who cares about RBG's"
This game is about 3v3 in ur eyes.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/29/2012 12:13 PMPosted by Nagomalda
I believe u said to me once "Who cares about RBG's"


no body does care about rbgs. but you cant say holy priests are crap. theyre actually a boat load better than disc.

theyre just as bad in 3's, but are at least viable in rbgs.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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they will do all those things, especially blind to get off stun dr...

do you not pvp at all?


Quite a bit actually. Both as resto and elem.

And no, they won't. They may do it to the H-priests teammates to make it easier to kill him, but there's not really any reason to do it to him. There's no reason to switch off of a Holy priest to any other target on their team unless they void swapped someone right next to them to sub 20% for the easy instant kill (or forced GS, but at that point it's right back to crushing the H priest.)

They have no way of kiting or personally forcing you off of them, and beyond possibly GS there's no deterrent to tunneling him into the ground.

Back to the topic - Solar Beam is a pain in the !@#, and now works quite well on shaman of all flavors >.>

Or back off the topic -

11/29/2012 12:15 PMPosted by Jkspiritlink
but you cant say holy priests are crap. theyre actually a boat load better than disc.


Explain how. All I've ever seen holy priests do in any setting of ranked pvp is disintegrate like a wet paper bag because they can't deal with focus, and there's little-no reason not to focus them.
Edited by Gistwiki on 11/29/2012 12:20 PM PST
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