That's the thing: I believe them when they say they're working on it and can't fix it currently. I'm hearing a lot of people claiming that if they really wanted to prevent premades completely, they could, and that the fact thaty they haven't is tacit approval. I don't claim to know better than Blizzard what they are and aren't capable of. All I'm doing is reporting what they've said on the subject.Why do you think you know better?
probably the same reason you do?
I have never said that these options were identical to the experience you get in unrated battlegrounds. You can not expect every aspect of the game to be tailored pesonally to you. The game supports a lot of different playstyles, but you've decided to cherry pick the coordination of rateds and wargames, and the uncoordinated opponents of unrated battlegrounds, and make your very own personal easymode games.12/04/2012 11:20 AMPosted by TinymasherI'm not trying to force anything on you. I'm saying that your playstyle belongs in rateds and wargames, and not in unrated battlegrounds.
let me know when they open up 40 man rated bgs. as for wargames... i'm here to crush alliance, not people i know. get with the program
So what? Who cares? Your addon should not be mandatory. If Blizzard wanted everyone to play as you do, they'd remove the party size limit without bothering about trying to match premades against each other. By saying 'anyone can use it,' you're essentially saying 'if someone doesn't use it, it's their fault if they lose.' You don't get to dictate the rules of unrated battlegrounds.Of course there are no rating or gear requirements; you don't need them because you're not facing equally coordinated opponents. You are still playing like they're rbgs; you just aren't selecting your teams the way you would have to if you were facing other geared, prepared premades more often than pugs.
as i pointed out, the coordination tools are available to both sides. in-game voice chat and type chat are available for coordination. if they don't choose to use them, like equipping a fishing pole instead of a 2H weapon, then that's their problem... not mine.
as for being geared, again, as you conveniently ignored, NONE of my groups have EVER had ANY gear requirements. many fresh 90s join them, with quest blues and no resil. that 'point' is irrelevant
Why do you insist on making this about big premades vs. solo queuers? People who queue in groups of five or fewer have 'chosen' not to ignore the rules. That only puts them at a disadvantage against people who think the rules don't apply to them."Not my problem" sums it all up nicely. You don't care about the unfair advantage that premades give you over honest players. It's not that unusual; a lot of people will take whatever advantage they can get no matter how unfair it is to anyone else. That's why games have rules. Like the one about premade size.
no... MY problem is doing everything i can to crush my opponent. THEIR problem is the same. if they have chosen to utilize the solo queuing mechanism blizz supplies instead of oQueue, then they have an increased chance of running with bots. that's their choice and ... not my problem.
worry about your team... i'll worry about mine... and we'll meet on the field.Do you really think that there's anything remotely 'demoralizing' about losing to a cheater? Really? I can only think of one time that I've been matched against a team that was obviously, unquestionably a pub stomping premade. I rolled my eyes and waited it out. I'm sure it makes you feel good to assume that this is all about 'tears;' it's not. I think cheating is lame. I think cheaters are lame. I think people who stroke their epeens about how great they are at cheating, as you do, are pathetic.
your tears on these threads, and over the last few months, have only motivated me more
Yeah, I understand that, but they require those things because your opponents are as coordinated as you are. You have to worry about comp and gear because you know the other team will, too. I didn't say you were choosing your teams like you were playing rateds, but that you were playing your games like a rated battleground, with that level of coordination.12/04/2012 11:30 AMPosted by SorinaYou are still playing like they're rbgs
Actually, we don't. RBGs require a different strategy to win than what most of the regular BG's use. RBGs also require a planned composition, which we again don't do.
oQueue is available to everyone! Drop in, say hi, come join us for some fun BGs if you have the time. No jerks here, we're even nice to the Alliance in vent.
I really, really wish that your addon was all about community. Those aspects are great, because there are unfortunately a lot of people who for whatever reason can't find people to play with in-game. I think that matching people together like that is good. But the cheating sucks.