World of Warcraft®

Let me sum up this post for everyone:

"We will continue to shill our pet project, "Cross-Realm Zones," despite the 12 or so 26-page capped threads, a thread that was capped at 546 pages, another capped at 663 pages, and - at the time of this posting - a 211-page thread that was unceremoniously unstickied, all being almost entirely dissent and disgust toward said pet project.

We will continue to claim we value feedback, while never actually responding to it aside from the generic automatic variety, continue to "clarify" things that everyone already knows, and continue to claim that the many bugs are not bugs, but "features" or "quirks" in the system. We will continue to act condescending to the playerbase for not mindlessly agreeing with us, and continue to ignore the laundry list of very real issues this "hilariously" flawed project has. We will also deny that a multitude of bugs, glitches, and exploitation opportunities were reported in the PTR, and that we ignored that feedback/reports and pushed it for release anyway.

We will also coninue to ignore the fact that our game, World of Warcraft, was never designed for the concept of Cross-Realm Zones, and defend our decision by stating that other games have a similar system, ignoring the fact that those games were designed with the system in mind. Lastly, we will continue to ignore the fact that one of our alleged reasons for the implementation of Cross-Realm Zones - empty levelling areas - was our own fault for eliminating group quests, getting rid of Elite areas, building our game entirely around the level cap, and thus getting through levelling as fast as possible, while also claiming this system was requested frequently, when in actuality that claim is spotty at best.

We hope you continue to enjoy World of Warcraft."

lol, 10/10. Couldnt have said it better than that.

11/28/2012 06:40 AMPosted by Locolobos

Can you guys increase the spawn rate for nodes in lower level zones not by much just enough to adjust for the Cross Realm Zone system that would be great thanks.

And this right here is actual constructive feedback. This is the kind of thing you people need to be discussing not throwing temper tantrums over time zones and reset times.

This is horrible. I play on a CST server for a reason.

So, you desired to fix your problems by creating new ones.

Brilliant.

11/27/2012 08:31 PMPosted by Quarrel

Couldn't the resets have been set at a compromise time in the central or mountain time zone instead of pacific? Daily resets at 6:00 am EST seam a lot weird. Should have left it on server time and just ditched the CRZ catastrophe. Would save you and us a bunch of grief.

CRZ is not going away. People can gripe about it all they want, it's here to stay.

Now what Blizzard is trying to do is address the issues that are causing people to dislike CRZ. I wish people would welcome the change and help offer constructive criticisms to how it needs improving instead of just saying "no we don't want it, it's bad /shoo crz or I'm cancelling my account".

There was a problem with times changing when you entered crz which cause confusing and Blizzard made changes to address that issue by having the resets be localised standard time instead of realm time. Now you people are still griping about it. lrn2adapt.

/end rant

11/28/2012 07:10 AMPosted by Tyburn

Unless you change the clocks on the servers to all be GMT/the same, this is going to be ridiculously confusing.

Not at all. Set time to local time and do the math. Simple.

Maybe they will listen when you people are capable of saying more than "get rid of crz nao blizz sucks". Like others have pointed out you had your chance to give feedback but you all felt it was more important to stomp your feet over intended things like pvp on pvp reams and competition for resources.

I realize you are hiding behind a low level alt probably because you are just trolling but the feedback about how bad CRZ was wasn't "crz nao blizz sucks". It was only read like that by trolls such as yourself who was probably happy for all the gankage CRZ brought your way!

Not that you'd tell the truth since you are just trolling but how much screaming would be coming from your direction if Blizz had changed everything to the point where you had to give up your dinner time in order to participate in a Raid or earn an achievement?

Yet another feature falls victim to CRZ.

Being able to chose a realm that fits your time of play was always nice. I play on a central time server, everything is scheduled around this time setting. If I wanted things dictated by PST, I would of rolled on a pacific time server. But I did not so I did not do so.

Trying to force something as a feature and breaking/nullifying other features in the process is not an improvement. For years, seamless zone transitions was boasted about. While it is still technically there, it is rendered ineffective because of servers bouncing people to other servers and the game lags/locks up waiting for the transistion to complete. (I've seen it take up to 30 seconds)

And now we lose localized time and time is standarized around a single group's location. What is the point of having a local server clock now when it rarely is ever the time of the server I rolled on from DAY 1 over 8 years ago?

For a company that is always talking about moving forward, this certainly is feeling like we're moving backwards instead.

For those folks whose play schedules are adversely affected by this, and who are blaming realm coalescing, let me clarify. It was only a matter of time (get it? ... humph) before we moved to this reset system. The problem with the fishing tournaments and CRZ was just a more blunt reminder that having non-standardized reset times is confusing in a game where realm transfers and cross-realm features are a reality.

We've used a similar system for European realms for quite some time and it's cleaner.

The new system will be better for some people, and worse for others, in terms of life schedules. But people have always had different play schedules that we can't always account for, and there are unavoidable inconveniences in that regard. The new system will just take some adjustment.

I'm on a realm where my dailies have been resetting at 1 a.m. my local time, which I've used to my advantage to do back-to-back dailies many nights before bed. I won't be able to do that anymore. But I don't think that's somehow unfair to me. It's logical, to me, for an online, very "real-time" game on the scale of World of Warcraft to have standardized times for time-based content, similar to a basketball game being broadcast live from the west coast.

"Blah Blah Blah, we acknowledge you complaints, and give you a middle finger, ty for your money"

So vote with your wallet and get out. If you truly feel this way how is continuing to give Blizzard your money going to change anything?

11/28/2012 07:27 AMPosted by Meiyun

ROFL@ the Pro CRZ, Pro-Timechange jackanape who keeps reporting the posts of those who don't like this poor change. Keep up the false reporting. You'll find yourself banned and we'll have one less troll to deal with. /cheer

The only false reporting I'm seeing is being done by those who hate cross realm zones and can't stand differing opinions. You have done nothing but harass and belittle anyone and everyone in this thread that refuses to join in on your Blizzard bashing.

So the time thing is fixed, neat-o.

Any word on fixing the issues with neat things (like rare spawns and rare capturable pets) you see when on a flight path getting phased out of existence when you land; so more people don't have to experience what happened to me?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200061491?page=1

Soooooooo ...... Stranglethorn fishing event takes place during supper hours for east coast people. Yeeaaaaahhhhhhh ....... that works ....... so it has become a west coast event then, huh?

Suggestion: You could make the event happen at 1:00 PM pst, then at least it would start at 4:00 pm est and the east coast would then have a chance without getting in trouble with their families because of supper times. (for the most part). If you're going to have an event, you need to at least make it doable by everyone in that specific realm or not do it at all. In all fairness, you cannot ask people to choose between getting in trouble with their families or taking part in an event.

Not everyone on east coast realms is on the east coast. In fact there are a considerable amount of Oceanic players on NA realms. Again there isn't one single time Blizzard could pick for these things that won't inconvenience someone.

11/28/2012 01:02 PMPosted by Xanzül

ROFL@ the Pro CRZ, Pro-Timechange jackanape who keeps reporting the posts of those who don't like this poor change. Keep up the false reporting. You'll find yourself banned and we'll have one less troll to deal with. /cheer

The only false reporting I'm seeing is being done by those who hate cross realm zones and can't stand differing opinions. You have done nothing but harass and belittle anyone and everyone in this thread that refuses to join in on your Blizzard bashing.

I don't know where you've been dude, but go look at the last CRZ thread. Someone's been going happy on the report button there almost exclusively on anti-CRZ people.

11/28/2012 09:05 AMPosted by Cylarana

Even though I'm not as upset by this change as a lot of people, Barashkukor's post is entirely correct. The old world is empty exactly because of changes blizzard has made to it. When I got back in, 80-88 or so flew by really very quickly. 89 tooka while but that was because I had life get crazy for a bit and didn't play much.

Explain to me why there are so many threads complaining about overpopulated zones if no one is in the zones. Which is it? You people need to have a meeting so you can get on the same page for your QQ. You are constantly contradicting each other.

On one hand, it's nice to hear that time-based events that were nixed because of CRZ are being restored.

On the other hand, it bugs me that for some east coasters, the sun will now rise at 8am and set at 9pm (local).

This does impact east-coast roleplayers. ((Technically, I'm a Great Lakes player, but my state shares a timezone with the coast.)) Imagine how annoying it is to Aussies who have to relearn the relative times - again.

Its impact on me is mitigated by the fact that to the best of my knowledge, WrA is a west-coast server.

11/28/2012 09:10 AMPosted by Brage

It's on a Sunday. I don't see what the huge deal is.

must be nice to be caught up in your own little world indifferent of others.

(I don't give a dam about the fishing myself but I do know a few that were working on it and could before the change and CRZ and now can't do to scheduling)

Hypocrite. I find it funny you accuse him of not thinking about others and then you do the same thing.

11/28/2012 09:16 AMPosted by Elazar

It's on a Sunday. I don't see what the huge deal is.

I take it you have no family to eat supper with then? Hmm? Most of us have family and Sunday is very often family day where we all eat together at supper time. Actually, we eat supper together every night, but that's beside the point. Supper time is supper time. If you are single and have no one around to eat with, then you have no problem. The rest of us do.

And not everyone eats when you do. Not everyone has a family like you do. See where I'm going with this? Different people have different lives and no change Blizzard makes is going to be tailor made for everyone. So give it a rest already.