Few hunter questions

90 Blood Elf Hunter
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3350
New hunter here,

A little worried since:

5.0 Hunters strong because of insane burst, and Hunters bottom of PVE DPS charts because of weak sustained dmg

5.1 Burst in nerfed pretty strongly

What will be our strong side in the game? Will we still have decent burst? Because as long as I understand sustained is not getting buffed.
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90 Dwarf Hunter
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The only change in 5.1 that affects damage is lynx rush was changed to a 15 second dot. That is it, nothing else has changed that hasn't already been hotfixed into the game. (In terms of damage, and not including any Marksmanship changes)
Edited by Morkel on 11/24/2012 11:58 PM PST
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90 Blood Elf Hunter
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3350
The only change in 5.1 that affects damage is lynx rush was changed to a 15 second dot. That is it, nothing else has changed that hasn't already been hotfixed into the game. (In terms of damage)


From my littke experience with Hunter, Lynx Rush is our most "bursty" CD. I wonder if we'll have any burst left after its taken out?
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90 Pandaren Hunter
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11/24/2012 11:59 PMPosted by Stormkill
The only change in 5.1 that affects damage is lynx rush was changed to a 15 second dot. That is it, nothing else has changed that hasn't already been hotfixed into the game. (In terms of damage)


From my littke experience with Hunter, Lynx Rush is our most "bursty" CD. I wonder if we'll have any burst left after its taken out?
Running a sim on femaledwarf.com using the changes coming up in the patch it was actually a DPS increase for me.
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22 Gnome Warrior
80
I am a bit suspicious of the simulations. Using the MM "rotation" the fan sites are promoting due to simulations was giving me sub-par DPS. Once I reworked it a bit, I saw a dramatic rise (> 20%) in sustained DPS.

There are a lot of different DPs builds and I wonder if the theory crafters have really worked through them with the "proper" rotation to maximize the DPS. It certainly explains Dev postings that their internal testing shows hunter PvE dps as competitive.
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15 Human Priest
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11/24/2012 11:37 PMPosted by Stormkill
What will be our strong side in the game? Will we still have decent burst? Because as long as I understand sustained is not getting buffed.

We'll have more pets! Granted our stables won't be enlarged to make use of them but we'll have them. Plus you'll be able to shoot on the move without needing to swap aspects all the time. (they actually consider this a buff)

I am a bit suspicious of the simulations. Using the MM "rotation" the fan sites are promoting due to simulations was giving me sub-par DPS. Once I reworked it a bit, I saw a dramatic rise (> 20%) in sustained DPS.

There are a lot of different DPs builds and I wonder if the theory crafters have really worked through them with the "proper" rotation to maximize the DPS. It certainly explains Dev postings that their internal testing shows hunter PvE dps as competitive.

I lost all respect for their "internal testing" last PvP season when Hunters were told "learn to play" after complaining they weren't viable in Arena.
The "rotation" they promote are based primarily on having BiS gear so naturally you'd have to modify it to suit your gear/play style.
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90 Tauren Paladin
16325
Just ignore prattle.
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8 Goblin Warrior
0
Just ignore prattle.


Ignore the facts you mean.
I think he means that he believes Prattle to be one of those posters who have to come into every Hunter thread and troll. While I don't think that he's a troll he does seem to be out of his league when it come to knowledgeable Hunters posting about their class.

I am a bit suspicious of the simulations. Using the MM "rotation" the fan sites are promoting due to simulations was giving me sub-par DPS. Once I reworked it a bit, I saw a dramatic rise (> 20%) in sustained DPS.

There are a lot of different DPs builds and I wonder if the theory crafters have really worked through them with the "proper" rotation to maximize the DPS. It certainly explains Dev postings that their internal testing shows hunter PvE dps as competitive.
Remember that we are talking about the same group of people who told UH DKs, SV Hunters and Fire Mages(?) that they were not playing their specs right only to turn around and tell us that they didn't actually know how to play those specs, we (the players) were the specialists, not them.
Edited by Whim on 11/26/2012 9:02 PM PST
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90 Dwarf Hunter
16040
11/26/2012 08:27 PMPosted by Kalorea
Just ignore prattle.


Ignore the facts you mean.


He means the part about devs having this mysterious hunter build that has us doing comparable competitive dps to the top dpsing classes
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90 Tauren Paladin
16325
What Whim said.
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