I tried to put a stick into the ground......

83 Blood Elf Paladin
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but I was silenced......

Let's make some other abilities not work while silenced:

Charge - Can't because you are silenced (You can't charge if you can't scream, ever seen braveheart? He's always screaming and running into fights)

Aim Shot - How can you Aim Shot someone if you aren't able to speak (they always speak while shooting in Lord of the Rings

Backstab - Hard to whisper in the ear of your opponent and stab them in the back if you can't talk

Death Grip - Can't reach out and touch someone if you can't make that phone call via Death Grip when silenced

Savage Roar - Tough to kitty scream if you can't talk right?!

Please list some more items that should be nerfed like Shaman Totems.
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90 Human Paladin
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....Battle Shout
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83 Blood Elf Paladin
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11/27/2012 09:10 PMPosted by Sliphe
....Battle Shout


I think Silence actually affects Shouts.....
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90 Pandaren Monk
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Death grip being a spell would actually make sense for it to not work if silenced. I used to have to get spell pen for it to not get resisted.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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Death grip has always been not usable while silenced.

i dont think any pet command abilities (hunters, locks, mages, dks, etc. etc.) should be usable while silenced.

HOW DO YOU TELL YOUR PET TO ATTACK IF YOU CANT SPEAK TO IT?
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97 Dwarf Hunter
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To be fair I think the point is that shamans have 4 totems, each specifically designed for air, fire, earth and water, and they specifically enchant them for individual totems. It's not a matter of carrying every single totem around or else you would be able to put down more than one of the same element at a time.
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100 Draenei Shaman
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11/27/2012 09:52 PMPosted by Spinnerdh
To be fair I think the point is that shamans have 4 totems, each specifically designed for air, fire, earth and water, and they specifically enchant them for individual totems. It's not a matter of carrying every single totem around or else you would be able to put down more than one of the same element at a time.

Wait, nevermind I'm retarded.

So I guess we have 1 totem of each element and we just cast on it and say "Ok water totem, you're a healing stream totem" or "Ok water totem, you're a healing tide totem" rather than "Ok blank totem, you're healing stream". So while we have a standard piece of wood, it's already imbued with a specific element, and we need to tell it which spell it actually holds.

It's not like we have 12+ totems we carry around at all times.
Edited by Dìvìné on 11/27/2012 10:46 PM PST
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97 Dwarf Hunter
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11/27/2012 10:43 PMPosted by Dìvìné
To be fair I think the point is that shamans have 4 totems, each specifically designed for air, fire, earth and water, and they specifically enchant them for individual totems. It's not a matter of carrying every single totem around or else you would be able to put down more than one of the same element at a time.

Wait, nevermind I'm retarded.

So I guess we have 1 totem of each element and we just cast on it and say "Ok water totem, you're a healing stream totem" or "Ok water totem, you're a healing tide totem" rather than "Ok blank totem, you're healing stream". So while we have a standard piece of wood, it's already imbued with a specific element, and we need to tell it which spell it actually holds.

It's not like we have 12+ totems we carry around at all times.

No, in fact back in the day where shamans had to do quests for their totems they got 4 quests, one for each element, and unlocked more ways to use those totems later on.
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100 Dwarf Hunter
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We can't lay traps while silenced nor toggle trap launcher or even use kill command I believe. I know there's some other stuff I'm missing as well.
Edited by Gimia on 11/27/2012 11:11 PM PST
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100 Draenei Shaman
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Wait, nevermind I'm retarded.

So I guess we have 1 totem of each element and we just cast on it and say "Ok water totem, you're a healing stream totem" or "Ok water totem, you're a healing tide totem" rather than "Ok blank totem, you're healing stream". So while we have a standard piece of wood, it's already imbued with a specific element, and we need to tell it which spell it actually holds.

It's not like we have 12+ totems we carry around at all times.

No, in fact back in the day where shamans had to do quests for their totems they got 4 quests, one for each element, and unlocked more ways to use those totems later on.

That's basically what I'm saying. You get one totem for each element, but that totem doesn't necessarily know what it is. It's a fire totem, end of story. If you dropped it as is, it will do nothing, because it's a basic fire totem. You have you make it either a searing totem, magma totem, fire elemental totem, etc. You don't carry around a totem for each individual version of a fire totem, just the base fire totem which you then make into one of those 3.
Edited by Dìvìné on 11/28/2012 2:09 AM PST
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90 Goblin Mage
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11/27/2012 09:52 PMPosted by Spinnerdh
To be fair I think the point is that shamans have 4 totems, each specifically designed for air, fire, earth and water, and they specifically enchant them for individual totems. It's not a matter of carrying every single totem around or else you would be able to put down more than one of the same element at a time.


This is a ludicrous argument. If anything at the very least the change should have not affected elemental and enhancement shaman so adversely.
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90 Draenei Shaman
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11/27/2012 11:26 PMPosted by Aesix
dks cant use spells while silenced. This includes death grip. Shaman stop crying. Silence sucks. Welcome to the club


DK's i know you blow,

but dps shamans blow harder.

enh can work if paired with one of the other strong melee classes, but elemental can never work.

if you think you have it bad as a dk, get some perspective and try elemental. it will humble you
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97 Dwarf Hunter
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11/28/2012 03:42 AMPosted by Bizznizz
To be fair I think the point is that shamans have 4 totems, each specifically designed for air, fire, earth and water, and they specifically enchant them for individual totems. It's not a matter of carrying every single totem around or else you would be able to put down more than one of the same element at a time.


This is a ludicrous argument. If anything at the very least the change should have not affected elemental and enhancement shaman so adversely.

A ludicrous argument? It is an explanation of why totems must be imbued with their effect, instead of just assuming that you carry around one totem for every totem spell in your spellbook. Not to mention I can't use two traps of the same type, nor can I use them while silenced and those aren't really spells at all.
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90 Goblin Mage
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11/28/2012 07:07 AMPosted by Spinnerdh


This is a ludicrous argument. If anything at the very least the change should have not affected elemental and enhancement shaman so adversely.

A ludicrous argument? It is an explanation of why totems must be imbued with their effect, instead of just assuming that you carry around one totem for every totem spell in your spellbook. Not to mention I can't use two traps of the same type, nor can I use them while silenced and those aren't really spells at all.


Well, brace yourself. I'm saying that hunters should also be able to use traps while silenced, and shaman should be able to drop totems.
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90 Night Elf Rogue
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Death grip has always been not usable while silenced.

i dont think any pet command abilities (hunters, locks, mages, dks, etc. etc.) should be usable while silenced.

HOW DO YOU TELL YOUR PET TO ATTACK IF YOU CANT SPEAK TO IT?


How do you train a worm to kill on command?
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90 Blood Elf Warlock
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Death grip has always been not usable while silenced.

i dont think any pet command abilities (hunters, locks, mages, dks, etc. etc.) should be usable while silenced.

HOW DO YOU TELL YOUR PET TO ATTACK IF YOU CANT SPEAK TO IT?

I speak to my minion telepathically, of course.
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