The Brawler's Guild & Realm Coalescing

90 Worgen Mage
12710
11/28/2012 06:14 PMPosted by Zarhym
We didn't design the Brawler's Guild with the intention of getting you through queues in 10 minutes or less.

Really disappointed with Brawler's Guild queue times. Was the intention to get through queues in 30-60 minutes. And what do you expect me to do while waiting for that duration. Troll the channel like its happening right now. I guess I wasted my gold on the invite.
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100 Draenei Shaman
16620
Still waiting in queue. I've been stuck in the over 20 point now for a while as I watch all the first timers jump to the front of the line. As of the time of writing this, Bruce has fought 220 people, won 61 times and lost 159. I'm getting sick of seeing Bruce...
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10 Tauren Shaman
0
This should have been instanced to a certain number of players. Instead on the first day we have horribly long queues. Can't wait till everyone on the server can access it.
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100 Orc Shaman
13025
Moderate? Do you consider moderate to be an hour and 30 minute queue? After paying 154k for my Brawler's Guild invite, I think that I deserve more than still sitting in a queue, waiting for HOURS on end to get into a single fight. This is absolutely ridiculous.
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90 Human Paladin
13580
Just logged out after 2 hours in que for 2nd match. Blizz finally came up with a way to make me utterly hate this game after 6 years of playing. No I am not going to flame and say I quit or any nonsense but this was somthing I looked forward to and see it crushed under its on wait in que times is just disappointing. I really feel CRZ should have been left out of this until a few months down the line. The dozens on my server that farmed this, we stood there for hours watching Bruce getting killed and never got another chance. Once people figured out that you could jump the line becuase this is account bound well it is really out of hand. Also if Blizz was to actually ever police thier game you could ban around a dozen accounts and hour based off of what is going on in that chat.
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90 Night Elf Druid
17035
11/28/2012 06:14 PMPosted by Zarhym
Having 100+ people in the queue doesn't create a good experience, but, from our perspective, neither does having only a small handful of people.

Because being able to brawl quickly is bad?

/tinfoil hat
Obviously it's bad because then more people get to experience the content faster, then get bored with it sooner, then cancel their sub and Blizzard doesn't get their money.

Regardless of the reason for CRZ here, it's a bad idea. Don't wait until there's hundreds of posts flaming Blizzard about this, Zar, make sure the devs know we think it's lame so they can fix it sooner rather than later.
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90 Night Elf Priest
14605
11/28/2012 06:14 PMPosted by Zarhym
this should stabilize in time


Only in this game. lol

Let's peer into the crystal ball everyone.

Blizz: "Just wait it out, we think it might be fine maybe soon."

3 months pass.

Paying Players: "Any update on Brawlers Guild getting out of CRZ?"

Blizz: "As we said, this will stabilize in time."

Fanclub @ Paying Players: "You are so self-entitled, these things can't be fixed right away, it only came out 3 months ago, yaddayadda."
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90 Troll Death Knight
13075
So even though this feature was designed to bring back a sense of community to realms, is it safe to say this was never intended to apply to low population realms or factions?

And for said realms and factions, I'm assuming what we're seeing now is how it's always going to function for them?
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90 Worgen Warlock
0
So, if we zone out and back in do we have a shot at getting out of the massive queue version that is out there right now?

And for the love of all... priority Queue for Bruce fight should only happen ONE time per day PER ACCOUNT for the new guys. They aren't learning how to move back in the 10 minutes so far. And I am quite certain I have seen a few guys running their whole account through the wringer.
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90 Pandaren Warrior
16000
Yup, I really expected this to be server only cause if it was, I wouldn't be waiting 20+ minutes for a turn like I am now.

Bait and switch much, Bliz?

Also, if you're gonna continue to push fake server merges together like this, just get it over with and merge the servers already so we actually interact with these people in more useful ways please.
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96 Draenei Death Knight
6985
11/28/2012 09:47 PMPosted by Thanë
Fanclub @ Paying Players: "You are so self-entitled, these things can't be fixed right away, it only came out 3 months ago, yaddayadda."
Real life lolz XD
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90 Draenei Hunter
VS
10230
Yup, I really expected this to be server only cause if it was, I wouldn't be waiting 20+ minutes for a turn like I am now.

Bait and switch much, Bliz?

Also, if you're gonna continue to push fake server merges together like this, just get it over with and merge the servers already so we actually interact with these people in more useful ways please.


Jesus, Brawler's has been up for a DAY. Stop acting like you are entitled to a first queue position every time. Wait your turn.
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90 Pandaren Monk
10000
Mal'ganis alliance here. So I won the first invite for my faction yesterday. Was alone at first, as of two hours ago had a wait of 13 with some cross realm. Meh sucks to lose a rank 7 fight and wait 10 min to try again. I leave for 2 hours and Black market cross realm trash floods the guild. Wait is 30-40people now maybe even more. Thanks for the Big stiff Blizzard. I understand not wanting me to fly threw it solo but this is a joke. L2 Crossrealm what needs it and what doesn't. xoxo.
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90 Pandaren Warrior
16000
Yup, I really expected this to be server only cause if it was, I wouldn't be waiting 20+ minutes for a turn like I am now.

Bait and switch much, Bliz?

Also, if you're gonna continue to push fake server merges together like this, just get it over with and merge the servers already so we actually interact with these people in more useful ways please.


Jesus, Brawler's has been up for a DAY. Stop acting like you are entitled to a first queue position every time. Wait your turn.


Take your face, place it on the floor and kindly walk yourself across it until you slowly grind away whatever there is left of it please.

Thank you! :D
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90 Human Paladin
17640
Easily 80-100 people in the brawlers area right now, I'm number 60 something in the Q and nothing but Bruce fights for the last at least 12-15 fights.

This feels anything but exclusive.... I didn't mind the 20 person Q times even. It's actaully fun to heckle cheer and watch the fights. But 60+ person Q's...c'mon


Even though you are an orc dk, the exact opposite of a paladin, I will have to agree with you 100%. The same thing is happening to my CRZ group. And they keep growing as time goes on! AND MORE CROC MATCHES!
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100 Human Paladin
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We didn't design the Brawler's Guild with the intention of getting you through queues in 10 minutes or less. We're not trying to replicate Dungeon Finder for the solo player with Brawler's Guild.


All I can say is 150s of action for every 30min in queue is one of the worst ways to design content.
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1 Draenei Shaman
0
We've seen some confusion about people from other realms showing up in the Brawler's Guild.

It's important to note that the Brawler's Guild only uses realm coalescing when the number of participants is really low, so a lot of people are seeing people from other realms due to the fact that there haven't been many invitations to join distributed yet. It's highly likely the area will cease to activate CRZ on most realms as participation increases. Having 100+ people in the queue doesn't create a good experience, but, from our perspective, neither does having only a small handful of people.

The feature is designed to bring a decent population into the guild, and those people should spend at least a modest amount of time as spectators or loiterers before getting into the ring. We didn't design the Brawler's Guild with the intention of getting you through queues in 10 minutes or less. We're not trying to replicate Dungeon Finder for the solo player with Brawler's Guild.

If the place seems overcrowded AND you're seeing people from other realms there, it could be a situation where the population check that determines whether or not to coalesce a realm hasn't run again yet. As I said before, this should stabilize in time and likely automatically disable CRZ for the guild.


No one wants to wait 30 people deep for the first night that they drop 100k on an invite.

This is bad design as usual, and vicarious dev/design team hubris posted via CM as usual.

I really expect better from Blizzard, but I'm starting not to.
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90 Human Paladin
11625
CRZ in the brawlers guild is dumb, What were you thinking blizz?
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80 Pandaren Mage
765
Silly Blizzard.

-Makes invitations exclusive like jerks on purpose to cut down queue times
-Allows CRZ to make the guild have long queue times anyways

So why make the invites hard to get in the first place again?
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100 Night Elf Druid
19795
11/28/2012 09:40 PMPosted by Sannith
We didn't design the Brawler's Guild with the intention of getting you through queues in 10 minutes or less.

Really disappointed with Brawler's Guild queue times. Was the intention to get through queues in 30-60 minutes. And what do you expect me to do while waiting for that duration. Troll the channel like its happening right now. I guess I wasted my gold on the invite.

sounds like the LFD. sit 40mins. actually do something for 5-10mins, in this case only 1-2mins.
its rather silly
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