Reading comprehension says hello. If you're gonna be snarky, try to pay attention to what you're being snarky about, or you'll just look foolish.
Grogtard is making this a reroll and l2p thread like every other one. Paladins having no defensive stance isn't an opinion, or guess, or myth; it's fact.
You made a post, good going.
Telling somebody to reroll or l2p is just as counterproductive as saying "give me stances." Most players really don't understand the entire scale of where Ret is currently in PvP. The reality is, the spec is in probably in the worst shape it's been since The Burning Crusade (not as bad but close).
The changes made to PvP power made Ret worse than it already was prior to 5.1 which was relatively subpar but not utter trash. Now it's just utter trash. 9 out of 10 players don't really bother to know the logistics as to why their class sucks, they just know it does because they get steamrolled consistently in BGs and can't understand why they're not as effective as their closest counterparts which are other Plate Wearing classes.
These very same 9 out of 10 players like Grognard will come on here and reply to each other with L2P yet they have absolutely 0 experience or understanding of any PvP outisde of random BGs so they really don't fully get how deep the suck truly goes.
As it stands now, Warriors are Gods, yes DKs lack some stuff in Arenas but in BGs will do very well, Rets on the other hand are a laughing stock all around and people get annoyed because patch after patch just makes things worse.
TL:DR If you think they're fixing Ret anytime soon, think again...Get Holy Gear lol