I am just saying that the Dev's hate us. I am also vehemently opposed to any good idea that I did not think of first.
I disagree with your first point. I agree wholeheartedly with the second. (But with "I" meaning "I," of course. :) )
Switching gears to the Shuriken Toss convo, I wanna launch off from post #12 above (from Posionpill, via Hail):
I know people HATE ST, but to me, I adore that talent. I mean, I'm constantly getting 32k crits on targets 10 yards +. It's low energy, helpful for building combos, applies poisons, and it has no cd. Why change it? I've even gotten a few paralytic poison stun procs from it and it's saved my sorry self.
It's cool hearing thoughts about this from a PvP perspective, because I'm so heavily PvE-focused. And from my standpoint as a casual-wannabe-raider, here's my thing with ST: It really bugs me that I have to choose between it and Anticipation. I realize that me saying that implies that the developers achieved their goal by making it a "hard choice" between the two, but in actuality it's not the kind of "hard choice" that I feel they had in mind. I wish I didn't have to choose between them because I feel like I'm choosing between a talent I "must" take for DPS purposes (Anticipation) and one that I wish I could take, because it'd be so much more fun to have for raid fights, but that I'd feel guilty taking because it'd be hurting my raid group as a whole (ST).
I love having ST on Feng, because I can feel like I'm still doing something useful during Epicenter, or when I get Wildfire Spark on me and I have to run away. I love having it in LFR on Spirit Kings or Ta'yak so I can quickly switch to mind-controlled people who are at range and help get them back in action. I love having it on Elegon because I can start flinging metal at the pylons as I'm racing toward them with my Shadowstep on cooldown. It's a talent that keeps me feeling engaged in fights and -- though I realize it's weird to use this word given the other talents in the tier -- makes me feel more versatile as a DPSer.
But outside of LFR? In a "real" raid? I feel like I can't let myself use it, because as fun as it is and as useful as I *feel* when I have it, I also know it costs me DPS compared to Anticipation.
Maybe if extra-CP proccing were removed from the equation, it'd be a more intriguing debate to have from fight to fight. But as many feared it would, the fight designs so far in Mists don't appear to have made ST a viable option over Anticipation, and that makes me sad.