Noble Orcs?

25 Blood Elf Paladin
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12/08/2012 04:28 PMPosted by Lorthuron
And here...we....go.....


I'm just saying, again, Taurajo was the single tamest way we've ever seen a settlement get destroyed in the history of Warcraft and can hardly justify deploying a weapon of mass destruction on an entire nation.

"Disproportionate retribution" comes to mind, and it rings even MORE shallow when you realize that the reason the Barrens were attacked was because the Horde was already attacking the Alliance on multiple fronts.
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Theramore was the original poster's primary reason for saying there was no such thing as a Noble Orc. I'm just saying that's pretty weak as the main reason.

Theramore the military base that had been destroying other cities.
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12/08/2012 04:44 PMPosted by Threeslotbag
Theramore the military base that had been destroying other cities.


So why are people all up in arms about 9/11? New York had the NYPD and the Fort Hamilton garrison. It was a military target, right?

And of course, the Pentagon was clearly a military target too. Attacking a civilian area and killing indiscriminately is fine as long as you can cook up some sort of military justification, right?
Edited by Vyrin on 12/8/2012 4:48 PM PST
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12/08/2012 03:23 PMPosted by Mordstreich
Can be, sure. But by and large, they're really not.
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12/08/2012 04:27 PMPosted by Vyrin
So why didn't the US retaliate with nuclear weapons after 9/11?

Ignoring the grossly misused appeal to emotion...

Those weren't the actions of a nation or polity.
Edited by Kellick on 12/8/2012 5:11 PM PST
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I was waiting for this thread to turn into another episode of the Looney Tunes.
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Theramore the military base that had been destroying other cities.


Theramore was not a military base, it was a sovereign nation, helping another allied sovereign nation fight back against a common enemy, composed of refugees from the Scourge Attacks in Eastern Kingdoms who chose (or were forced, due to Forsaken, Scourge, or Blood Elf occupation of their former homes) to establish a home on Kalimdor rather than return.

The nation that controlled Camp Taurajo had been making military and espionage actions against both Darnassus and Theramore for years, and had just launched a comprehensive and devestating military campaign against Darnassus' holdings.

Calling it a Military base it a gross mischaracterization, and would be like advocating, say, the bombing of Seattle and Tacoma, WA because joint base Lewis-McChord is right there.'
Edited by Jaelara on 12/8/2012 5:23 PM PST
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Ignoring the grossly misused appeal to emotion...

Those weren't the actions of a nation or polity.


It wasn't an appeal to emotion, it was an example I knew people would understand.

And the US certainly BLAMED a polity (The Taliban government of Afghanistan.)

So why didn't they nuke Kabul?
Edited by Vyrin on 12/8/2012 5:24 PM PST
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12/08/2012 05:23 PMPosted by Jaelara
Calling it a Military base it a gross mischaracterization, and would be like advocating, say, the bombing of Seattle and Tacoma, WA because joint base Lewis-McChord is right there.'


It had tanks coming out of it. :\
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12/08/2012 05:24 PMPosted by Vyrin
So why didn't they nuke Kabul?

Because the comparison is worth less than the pixels it takes up on the screen.
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12/08/2012 05:41 PMPosted by Skytotem
Calling it a Military base it a gross mischaracterization, and would be like advocating, say, the bombing of Seattle and Tacoma, WA because joint base Lewis-McChord is right there.'


It had tanks coming out of it. :\


And Ogrimmar has always been surrounded by Military ships, Catapults, and etc, and crawling with Horde soldiers.

In a Medieval Fantasy Fiction Mileu, your average fortress city has the equivalent of a standing army defending it. This is not always a sign of an expansionistic bent, but simply to defend the city. Theramore was surrounded by very credible threats to its safety, and needed a military presence to defend itself, just like Ogrimmar, Darnassus, and so on.
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12/08/2012 05:11 PMPosted by Kellick
So why didn't the US retaliate with nuclear weapons after 9/11?

Ignoring the grossly misused appeal to emotion...

Those weren't the actions of a nation or polity.


There's a reason i keep him on ignore, your quoted portion proves me right again for doing so.

But to answer OP, yes, quite a few, though Blizz has been busy whirling the villain bat about the horde they tend to get lost.

Eitrigg
Ariok
Saurfang
Gorgonna
Nazgrim...has potential, hard to see where his character is going.
Drek'that

Unfortunately, Blizz has done a bad job at portraying any orcs with the Thrall PoV, even back when it was the dawn of WoW and the New Horde
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100 Night Elf Hunter
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Calling it a Military base it a gross mischaracterization, and would be like advocating, say, the bombing of Seattle and Tacoma, WA because joint base Lewis-McChord is right there.'


If huge amounts of tanks are pouring out of Seattle and then destroy Vancouver BC and kill every Canadian on the way to Alaska...then I'm ok with the Canadians ATTEMPTING to bomb it.
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12/08/2012 05:24 PMPosted by Vyrin
So why didn't they nuke Kabul?


How about the vast array of geopolitical concerns that exist irl and not ingame...
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And Ogrimmar has always been surrounded by Military ships, Catapults, and etc, and crawling with Horde soldiers.

In a Medieval Fantasy Fiction Mileu, your average fortress city has the equivalent of a standing army defending it. This is not always a sign of an expansionistic bent, but simply to defend the city. Theramore was surrounded by very credible threats to its safety, and needed a military presence to defend itself, just like Ogrimmar, Darnassus, and so on.


Okay but that's not all theramoore was doing, it was serving as an alliance port to put more tanks and soldiers into the barrens it was a valid target.
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100 Tauren Shaman
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Isnt Orgimmar a target in the war anyway? Sure your not nuking it but we do know its going to come under seige.

Only difference between that and Theramore was that the horde used a Mana Bomb.
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100 Tauren Shaman
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Remember that song in the Wizard of Oz?
If I only had a brain!
Yea, that comes to mind whenever you type.


Seriously dude, dont get nasty. Thats really uncalled for.

Your can argue till the cows come home over lore but keep it civil. Personal attacks turn things nasty and will get you banned.
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12/08/2012 03:35 PMPosted by Mordstreich
Some of Garrosh's biggest advocates are the Mag'har. Orcs who have never partaken of demon blood are just as bloodthirsty as the ones who have.


In some cases they are even more bloodthirsty.

The irony burns.
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