about the terrace unlock requirement

1 Blood Elf Paladin
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why does it exist?

people are gated from charity elite gear that is easy to get, meanwhile HoF bosses are more difficult, and yield lower ilvl items.

it's almost like when people would get someone to unlock gunship to heroic for free loot. so why does terrace require HoF cleared anyways? even alts can do elite mode protectors.
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90 Human Paladin
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It's probably there to give some sense of continuity to the raid.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
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Lore.

Difficulty probably wasn't designed to be ascending (Stone Guard is more difficult than some other MSV fights, yet it's first...), so my guess is that fights were designed around the boss' character/role in the storyline(s) and it just so happened that HoF turned out to be more difficult. Frustrating, but what are you gonna do?
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90 Troll Warlock
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Its been said a dozen times, but I guess I'll repeat it again.

Story wise, the Sha of Fear doesn't enter the Terrace of Endless Springs until you defeat Grand Empress in Heart of Fear. Erego, if the main bad guy you're chasing isn't even in the instance yet, what business would you have there?
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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I see nothing wrong with the gating mechanism. The only thing I don't like is that you can cheese it.
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90 Orc Warlock
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Its been said a dozen times, but I guess I'll repeat it again.

Story wise, the Sha of Fear doesn't enter the Terrace of Endless Springs until you defeat Grand Empress in Heart of Fear. Erego, if the main bad guy you're chasing isn't even in the instance yet, what business would you have there?


While I agree and don't mind the gate, I'm betting the typical WoW player doesn't care as much about lore as they do about getting their "charity elite gear." You only need one person to have killed empress anyways and if you don't have that, what are you complaining about? Empress is doable without Terrace gear.
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90 Blood Elf Priest
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Nope. Gotta do it on Normal to unlock Normal.

Edit: Same reason you don't complete the Sha of Fear step of "The Tranquil Master" cheevo for downing him in LFR.
Edited by Nyrok on 12/10/2012 8:38 AM PST
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90 Pandaren Rogue
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^tolled so hard lol

Nice job Nery
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90 Orc Warlock
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lol Yeah, I'm betting a lock in Challenge mode gear knows the gating mechanic. One starts to wonder though, you can't get into Normal mode from doing LFR, but you're going to be able to get a nice shiny orange weapon. Note I said orange, not legendary.
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100 Dwarf Death Knight
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12/10/2012 02:44 PMPosted by Zakigga
lol Yeah, I'm betting a lock in Challenge mode gear knows the gating mechanic. One starts to wonder though, you can't get into Normal mode from doing LFR, but you're going to be able to get a nice shiny orange weapon. Note I said orange, not legendary.


There were rumors the first week of terrace that people were getting in with just LFR empress kills, but I never actually looked into the requirement, had an empress kill before Terrace, so without hearing first hand crying over the gating, wouldn't have even known the difference.
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90 Pandaren Warrior
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Or just be less bad and kill empress, you have to do it eventually.

A few extra ilvls on your bracers isn't going to make a kill
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100 Human Paladin
aus
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12/10/2012 07:33 AMPosted by Mincus
Story wise, the Sha of Fear doesn't enter the Terrace of Endless Springs until you defeat Grand Empress in Heart of Fear. Erego, if the main bad guy you're chasing isn't even in the instance yet, what business would you have there?


I have defeated the grand empress in lfr many times. In the meantime if I am a normal raid as long as one person has defeated the grand empress in normal then I can enter terrace even if Have not killed any bosses at all in any difficulty.

In otherwords lol lore.
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100 Troll Rogue
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Think of the "charity elite gear" as a bonus for clearing heart of fear, the same way that killing the first few bosses in hyjal was a reward for clearing t5 content.

If you can't make the dps checks of garalon/elegon enrage timers are going to be a big thing for you in in totes anyway, the people blowing through it and saying its easy have already cleared the other zones.
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90 Pandaren Rogue
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Story wise, the Sha of Fear doesn't enter the Terrace of Endless Springs until you defeat Grand Empress in Heart of Fear. Erego, if the main bad guy you're chasing isn't even in the instance yet, what business would you have there?


I have defeated the grand empress in lfr many times. In the meantime if I am a normal raid as long as one person has defeated the grand empress in normal then I can enter terrace even if Have not killed any bosses at all in any difficulty.

In otherwords lol lore.


Even though I despise RP just to prove your argument is invalid.

"Fellow warriors, I have traveled deep into the Heart of Fear and first hand witnessed the demise of the Grand Empress. My guild lost many good men that day, however, we have the evil Sha of Fear on the run. He hath retreated into the Terrace of Endless Springs, who among you have the heart to go forth with me and banish this Sha forever?"

aka my 9 teammates "died" and now i need 9 new ones. Even though you have not chased the Sha to ToES, I personally have with others.
Edited by Bambòóbiez on 12/10/2012 3:23 PM PST
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90 Blood Elf Mage
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Love people who can't even zone into Terrace yet calling hardmode protector "charity" gear.
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90 Pandaren Rogue
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12/10/2012 03:45 PMPosted by Mahourai
Love people who can't even zone into Terrace yet calling hardmode protector "charity" gear.


this x 2031203812
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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I joined a Terrace group last night only to find out nobody had a 6/6 clear. This gating on this raid is pretty annoying.
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90 Orc Death Knight
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If it's "lore" then why doesn't LFR Empress unlock Normal Toes...?
o_O
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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How much do guilds usually charge for a empresses kill?

I might spam trade to buy one, cause missing out on a whole raid every week is annoying.
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