All Metalworking is Forging

90 Night Elf Druid
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It's kind of sad to see that virtually every culture in WoW uses the exact same brand of ferrous-style hammer and anvil forging.

It's a real shame considering there are minutely touched-upon, interesting things like watersmithing (which is a waste of material, regardless).

Iron isn't easily casted, but a lot of other metals are. Why aren't the Orcs using weapons made in elemental, shamanistic bronze casting rituals?

Why don't the Zandalari use obsidian-bladed weapons? The sharper-than-razor glass seems fittingly brutal for the trolls.

The Draenei had a really cool thing with their crystal-edged weapons. It was a cool breakaway from the norm, but even they were portrayed as forging crystals on an anvil.

Even excepting all of that, it'd be cool if metallurgy was a little more developed.
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85 Tauren Shaman
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12/10/2012 07:35 PMPosted by Macaoidh
It's a real shame considering there are minutely touched-upon, interesting things like watersmithing (which is a waste of material, regardless).


Hmm?

Yeah though we ought to have more weapons grown or conjured and such.
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99 Troll Hunter
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Iron isn't easily casted, but a lot of other metals are. Why aren't the Orcs using weapons made in elemental, shamanistic bronze casting rituals?

That would be awesome. I always wondered if Shamans could manipulate metal Magneto style, what with it originating from the earth and all.
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100 Draenei Paladin
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You perhaps missed the Jinju using water pressure to forge things? I mean, similar in style, but water pressure? Damn.
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90 Night Elf Druid
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12/10/2012 07:40 PMPosted by Arkturas
You perhaps missed the Jinju using water pressure to forge things? I mean, similar in style, but water pressure? Damn.


I mentioned that actually
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85 Tauren Shaman
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12/10/2012 08:53 PMPosted by Macaoidh
mentioned that actually


How's it a waste of material?
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90 Orc Warlock
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12/10/2012 07:35 PMPosted by Macaoidh
It's kind of sad to see that virtually every culture in WoW uses the exact same brand of ferrous-style hammer and anvil forging.


It's probably to keep things simple for game design. Most people know what an anvil is, even if you put an odd design or different bells and whistles on it. Most people know the basic image of a hammer and anvil.

If you went with an "orcs do [X] humans do [Y] draenei do [W]" and so on it might get confusing, especially if you're trying to level a blacksmith.

I agree it might be interesting to see some different facets to different races, but they'd probably just be mentioned in passing or out of the way somewhere because Blizzard doesn't really have the inclination to develop everything.
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90 Night Elf Druid
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12/10/2012 08:55 PMPosted by Skytotem
mentioned that actually


How's it a waste of material?


It's either stock removal, which just removes metal from the billet, or it's working the metal cold, which can cause lots of problems.
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85 Tauren Shaman
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12/10/2012 09:26 PMPosted by Macaoidh
or it's working the metal cold, which can cause lots of problems.


Eeeexamples?

EDIT:

t's probably to keep things simple for game design. Most people know what an anvil is, even if you put an odd design or different bells and whistles on it. Most people know the basic image of a hammer and anvil.

If you went with an "orcs do [X] humans do [Y] draenei do [W]" and so on it might get confusing, especially if you're trying to level a blacksmith.

I agree it might be interesting to see some different facets to different races, but they'd probably just be mentioned in passing or out of the way somewhere because Blizzard doesn't really have the inclination to develop everything.


Wouldn't have to be, could just have one thing in each races big capital / town area for blacksmithing and such with an NPC nearby to explain.
Edited by Skytotem on 12/10/2012 9:29 PM PST
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96 Troll Shaman
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12/10/2012 09:27 PMPosted by Skytotem
Eeeexamples?

Quenching a metal dramatically alters its properties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenching

But then again, magic.
Edited by Kellick on 12/10/2012 9:34 PM PST
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90 Night Elf Druid
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12/10/2012 09:27 PMPosted by Skytotem
Eeeexamples?


Brittleness, for one. There's a reason steels are wrought at high temperatures.

Forging something while it's hot also removes oxides and impurities and in ferrous metals, can be used to add carbon, making it harder and more resistant to dulling.
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85 Tauren Shaman
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12/10/2012 09:34 PMPosted by Kellick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenching


quenching is the rapid cooling of a workpiece

Does this work if it starts out cool?
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90 Human Warrior
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Would be cool. Especially if Blacksmiths got some neat patterns that required going around the world to forge the pieces differently, sort of like how the Dark Iron metalworking required using the Dark Forge and other special reagents.
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90 Human Paladin
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Its mostly just for in-game convenience. Back in vanilla, Dark Iron bars used to have to be smelted/used for forging in Black rock depths. Similar to how Tailors had to go to a moonwell to create Mooncloth or Alchemists had to go to Scholomance to make flasks.

But I agree. It'd be cool if there was like a "Arcane forge" that was required to smelt certain metals and forge them located in the world. Could also be a good pvp hotspot.
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