Agility on Plate Armor
12/11/2012 04:10 PMPosted by InvincibleThe agility plates from Hellfire Ramparts and up are great for tanking. I think they're the first plates with sockets. I think the agility is a throwback from when dks needed it.
Agility plate existed before DKs did.
Glad to know they're OK. I was gonna start freaking out on where I would get gear otherwise. O_o
Thanks for the info! Happy Warcrafting!
As long as it has strength and stam on it as well, which I think pretty much all of those do, your fine.
Just try to steer clear of the ones with no primary stats at all that start showing up in late BC and early LK, those were around before primary stats were the godly things they are, and are supremely terrible. Strength/stam---------------everything else in that range.
From vanilla to cataclysm, agility had an affect on plate classes. The stat increased dodge and crit. It acted as a reasonable hybrid stat on plate while leveling since it could be used for either.
When the MOP patch came, they removed all benefits from agility. It no longer boosts anything for plate classes, and in return they changed the base chance to crit (from 3%-5%) and made strength add parry rating to all plate classes.
Also keep in mind that if you tank and are not using an heirloom one hander, you will want to use the slow dps weapons since the old tank weapons were designed when tanks wanted fast swing times (they are now punished damage wise for fast swings).
However, if you start thinking, "I should stack Agility then since it gives me more crit", you can do a filter on Wowhead.com and see that there is no gear added in MoP that is plate and has Agility (http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.4?filter=cr=166:21;crs=5:1;crv=0:0).
Plate wearers in MoP get plenty of crit primarily from +crit rating stats on their armor and from gemming or reforging stats that are lower priority for crit, depending on the class, spec, and gameplay role being dealt with.
Since strength, even back then, gave us a 2:1 attack power ratio, and there was plenty more plate gear with strength and crit rating, and Ret Paladins shouldn't care about extra armor and dodge (to the point of intentionally gearing for it, at least) no Ret Paladin should have been going after Agility, even in TBC. I think the only time a Ret Paladin could ever have wanted Agility would have been in Vanilla and I doubt it was even the case then. I believe back then they were stacking intellect, attack power, and spell power (but I could be wrong there, I started playing in TBC).
Outland is weird that way, probably because it's the least changed of the areas since the Cata/MoP "clean up" they did.
12/11/2012 07:45 PMPosted by EsthericaWhen the MOP patch came, they removed all benefits from agility. It no longer boosts anything for plate classes, and in return they changed the base chance to crit (from 3%-5%) and made strength add parry rating to all plate classes.
Agility still boosts crit, and the base crit chance has always been 5%. It was armor and dodge that were removed from agility for plate classes.
12/12/2012 06:37 AMPosted by DrenakThe only benefits it had for Ret in TBC was increasing your armor slightly, increasing your crit (if I recall correctly), possibly increasing your chance to dodge slightly, and increasing your attack power on a 1:1 ratio.
Agility never gave plate classes attack power (not melee attack power, at least--I have no idea if it affected ranged attack power).
This was back in BC and vanilla. I believe this got redone either right before, or on the release of Wrath.
It did give crit, dodge, and a bit of armor, though. It wasn't as good as actual crit rating - IIRC, a level 60 needed 20 agi to get 1% crit, compared to 14 crit rating - but it did have some value.
And then they eventually revamped stats so that paladins/warriors/DKs would stop wearing agi gear, but forgot to change all the old gear :p
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