Blizzard, proposed fix to warriors.

90 Blood Elf Mage
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If the only argument against the OP's idea is that it penalizes warriors' DPS for the duration that they use defensive stance for PvE raid mechanics, then it isn't a very good argument.

You're trading something for that extra survivability. The warrior can even time cashing in their TfB stacks before going defensive and have a minimal loss of DPS. It adds another layer of player skill to min/maxing warriors. Or not, if you just don't want to use defensive stance in PvE at all, since they didn't balance the game around the assumption that you need to.
Edited by Kaikou on 12/12/2012 1:37 PM PST
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90 Pandaren Monk
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No more TfB procs while in defensive stance. Also, going defensive stance immediately causes all stacks of TfB to fall off.

This fixes everything. Second wind is no longer as big a problem because if they go defensive to get that extra -25% damage, they lose their stacks and aren't gaining any (all they really do is delay the inevitable).

It also fixes their insane burst. If you see 2 TfB stacks on the warrior, you can at least tunnel him to force defensive stance to survive. If his partners peel properly or he decides to keep fighting in battle or zerker stance and risk imminent death, he can keep the stacks, if not he loses them and along with it his near-future burst potential.

Risk/Reward rather than sitting in defensive stance all game fishing for TfB procs and waiting for a chance to use your 1 shot macro.

Blizzard already said they don't want warriors sitting in defensive stance the whole game, this seems to fix that without much downside for PvP and ZERO downside for PvE.


This doesn't fix anything. They still have too much damage reduction while in defensive stance, and ahve multiple ways to get their health back to 35% while stalling and putting out more damage on their opponents. Stupid idea.

Real Fix:

All stacks of TFB drop. Defensive stance only -10% dmg reduction if not Defense specced. Second wind nerfed to only provide 1.5% hp per second. You still have DBTS and Shield Wall. Don't cry about dying.
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90 Human Paladin
8155
Blizzard proposes to fix a lot of things.. I stopped listening to what Blizzard says. I will believe it when I see it.
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90 Troll Warlock
15155
12/12/2012 05:05 PMPosted by Drayjin
All stacks of TFB drop. Defensive stance only -10% dmg reduction if not Defense specced. Second wind nerfed to only provide 1.5% hp per second. You still have DBTS and Shield Wall. Don't cry about dying.


Reducing the amount of DR for non-prot warriors is what I'd like to see as well. 10% is still significant both in PvP and PvE, so in addition to that, add a -10% penalty to damage done while in defensive stance (could be baseline because prot wars do enough dps with vengeance), since the penalty to rage generation doesn't do much when most of your skills (CS, MS, OP) don't cost any.

For non-protection warriors, defensive stance should be something that they need to pick the right time to use, be it prolonged raid damage or being kited in PvP.
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90 Human Paladin
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12/11/2012 06:00 PMPosted by Massivecow
Arms gets a -25% damage taken buff in all stances!


This is the part whare you need to be slapped.

the defensive stance buff is what makes Second wind so amazing in PVP.

This is what the OP is trying to avoid.
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