parry its not effected by expertise in pvp

90 Blood Elf Rogue
14345
Ive noticed multiple times parry its not effected by expertise on pvp players. i got over 6% expertise and Ive getting frequently parried by agility classes... and more ofter from plate. its like i have no expertise on my gear at all... can someone look at it please
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100 Night Elf Druid
18105
Players are not fixed at 3% dodge or parry - especially strength-based plate and agility-based leather and mail. For example, I currently have 15.50% dodge without any buffs or procs, so your 6% expertise wouldn't even be enough to prevent me from dodging you.

NPCs have fixed avoidance amounts (outside of buffs). Players will change based on their gear.
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90 Blood Elf Rogue
14345
but should prevent you from parrying me right? atm another rogue or druids could parry me easily even with that 6% expertise...
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90 Blood Elf Rogue
14345
let me get you this straight , an agility wearer has a fixed 3% parry and a plate has a 3% dodge. doesn't matter how much I lvl they have they get 3% ether parry or dodge. my complaint are towards the agility wearers that even with that 3% they parry my 6% expertise.
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100 Night Elf Druid
18105
As a Druid, I could never Parry you - no matter how much I wanted to or tried.

Rogues, Monks, Hunters and Enhancement Shaman, however, can Parry in addition to being able to Dodge. The thing is, they also tend to have quite a bit of Dodge as well by virtue of the Agility they'll naturally be seeking out. Your Expertise will work towards that Dodge first, then Parry.

Assuming it is a 3% base for both Dodge and Parry (and I don't actually think it is, but that's moot for the moment) than all they would need to do is have 1% more Dodge from Agility or Dodge Rating (unlikely, but entirely possible) for them to re-introduce a 1% chance to Parry you. If they had 3% Dodge from their gear, they would have the full 3% chance to Parry you once more - though they still wouldn't be able to Dodge you. And odds are they're going to have quite a bit more than 3% Dodge from their gear.

Conversely, plate-wearers (save Holy Paladins) will tend to have much more than 3% Parry as a result of the Strength to Parry conversion. This means you may well have enough Expertise to knock off the base 3% of each (again, assuming that's accurate which I don't know that it is) but you'll still have to content with whatever their stats are supplying them with in the way of additional Parry.

Plate and Monk Tanks will have more of both as a result of spec and gear, while Druid tanks (like myself) will have more Dodge. This puts you even further from the goal just by virtue of their stats against yours.
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