another blanket healing nerf

90 Undead Mage
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But this got a bit derailed due to how delusional you are if you think druids are just ok and not great.
Blizzard agrees with me, not you.

And yes resto druids should have lower healing output than shammy pally because resto druids have more "tricks" and utility. But right now that disparity is too large, so nerfing both by 30% isn't going to fix it.
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But this got a bit derailed due to how delusional you are if you think druids are just ok and not great.
Blizzard agrees with me, not you.

And yes resto druids should have lower healing output than shammy pally because resto druids have more "tricks" and utility. But right now that disparity is too large, so nerfing both by 30% isn't going to fix it.


LOL, you sound like a little kid. Blizzard agrees with me! lol. Blizzard said they think healing was too strong. Not specific class's. Setting aside the fact we all know monk/priest is not a wise choice for high tier arena. Blizzard has never said druids were even close to not viable just that all heals were too strong for him. No point of trying to argue this anymore. Let me know what rank one players run with a a paladin when you get a chance. Shammy/druid
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90 Night Elf Druid
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12/12/2012 08:46 AMPosted by Fînn
Let me know what rank one players run with a a paladin when you get a chance


Zilea has been 2500+ all season with multiple partners on BG9. Currently 2477 Rank #5.
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90 Undead Priest
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I'm glad I started grabbing some shadow gear because Disc is clearly intended to not be playable. If Blizz nerfs shadow without fixing Disc I will cancel.
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90 Troll Druid
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Blizzard agrees with me, not you.

And yes resto druids should have lower healing output than shammy pally because resto druids have more "tricks" and utility. But right now that disparity is too large, so nerfing both by 30% isn't going to fix it.


LOL, you sound like a little kid. Blizzard agrees with me! lol. Blizzard said they think healing was too strong. Not specific class's. Setting aside the fact we all know monk/priest is not a wise choice for high tier arena. Blizzard has never said druids were even close to not viable just that all heals were too strong for him. No point of trying to argue this anymore. Let me know what rank one players run with a a paladin when you get a chance. Shammy/druid


From Tom Chilton interview:

When asked about arena balance: Burst is too high, non burst damage is too low, there are some disparities between the different healers with Shaman / Paladin being good, Druids being okay, and Discipline Priests and Monks lagging a little bit, and the amount of offensive instant cast crowd control being used.

Source : http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3045-Tom-Chilton-Interview-WoWkemon-Addon-Blue-Posts-Blue-Tweets-TCG-Art

The amount of tools a druid has compared to say a paladin is now roughly equivalent if you look at the amount of CC, along with double freedom and double BoP. Shaman were actually in a much stronger spot than both healers until the totem nerf.
Edited by Flakox on 12/12/2012 9:03 AM PST
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90 Human Rogue
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12/11/2012 10:59 PMPosted by Primiez
Yeah my WW healing will suck even more ballz lol but it's good for the game.


Primez, I dont know if you knew this or not but Resto druids, and MW monks kinda suck in PVE right now. So you are 100% right, this was the way to go, and all blizzard will need to do after this is fix MW Monks and Resto druids.

Naturally if they buff resto druids, they will need to nerf the mobility they have.
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90 Undead Mage
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12/11/2012 08:03 PMPosted by Thumos
These lazy blanket nerfs certainly need to stop, both the PvP power nerf and this one hit many healer and hybrid dps specs who were not doing well to begin with... Never in the history of wow have so many crappy specs been affected by such sloppy blanket nerfing.


I agree, they put these carefully thought out changes in 5.1, and then in the following two weeks they drop hotfixes with blanket number/coefficient changes.
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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LOL, you sound like a little kid. Blizzard agrees with me! lol. Blizzard said they think healing was too strong. Not specific class's. Setting aside the fact we all know monk/priest is not a wise choice for high tier arena. Blizzard has never said druids were even close to not viable just that all heals were too strong for him. No point of trying to argue this anymore. Let me know what rank one players run with a a paladin when you get a chance. Shammy/druid


From Tom Chilton interview:

When asked about arena balance: Burst is too high, non burst damage is too low, there are some disparities between the different healers with Shaman / Paladin being good, Druids being okay, and Discipline Priests and Monks lagging a little bit, and the amount of offensive instant cast crowd control being used.

Source : http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3045-Tom-Chilton-Interview-WoWkemon-Addon-Blue-Posts-Blue-Tweets-TCG-Art

The amount of tools a druid has compared to say a paladin is now roughly equivalent if you look at the amount of CC, along with double freedom and double BoP. Shaman were actually in a much stronger spot than both healers until the totem nerf.


So its ok that the HEALING specs of those classes are considered ok but the DPS specs are hit with yet another terrible nerf?

Sense, this makes none.
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90 Undead Priest
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From Tom Chilton interview:

When asked about arena balance: Burst is too high, non burst damage is too low, there are some disparities between the different healers with Shaman / Paladin being good, Druids being okay, and Discipline Priests and Monks lagging a little bit, and the amount of offensive instant cast crowd control being used.

Source : http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3045-Tom-Chilton-Interview-WoWkemon-Addon-Blue-Posts-Blue-Tweets-TCG-Art

The amount of tools a druid has compared to say a paladin is now roughly equivalent if you look at the amount of CC, along with double freedom and double BoP. Shaman were actually in a much stronger spot than both healers until the totem nerf.


So its ok that the HEALING specs of those classes are considered ok but the DPS specs are hit with yet another terrible nerf?

Sense, this makes none.


The worst part is he said changes would be on 5.2 ptr soon. So disc priest buffs coming in FIVE POINT TWO. As in months away. gg.
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90 Undead Priest
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LOL, you sound like a little kid. Blizzard agrees with me! lol. Blizzard said they think healing was too strong. Not specific class's. Setting aside the fact we all know monk/priest is not a wise choice for high tier arena. Blizzard has never said druids were even close to not viable just that all heals were too strong for him. No point of trying to argue this anymore. Let me know what rank one players run with a a paladin when you get a chance. Shammy/druid


From Tom Chilton interview:

When asked about arena balance: Burst is too high, non burst damage is too low, there are some disparities between the different healers with Shaman / Paladin being good, Druids being okay, and Discipline Priests and Monks lagging a little bit, and the amount of offensive instant cast crowd control being used.

Source : http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3045-Tom-Chilton-Interview-WoWkemon-Addon-Blue-Posts-Blue-Tweets-TCG-Art

The amount of tools a druid has compared to say a paladin is now roughly equivalent if you look at the amount of CC, along with double freedom and double BoP. Shaman were actually in a much stronger spot than both healers until the totem nerf.


He also said the two bottom healers are only "lagging behind a bit". It's clear that they're not black and white on healer balance, also, blizzard doesn't agree with the OP at all if we're using this quote as a standard.

In case that didn't ruin the points already, many high-rated players would vouch that Rdruid is incredibly powerful atm.
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