12/19/2012 08:14 PMIt is not "knee jerk" when the Sunreavers have shown repeated instances of helping the Horde commit atrocity-level crimes against the Alliance, first by wiping out Theramore, and then by helping them secure an artifact that would be used to empower an army that the Horde's Absolute Ruler has declared will be used for the extermination of the Alliance in full.
Posted by Jaelara
Although would agree with you on the Theramore point, also agree that it wasnt 'knee jerk' and frankly think that Jaina, finally, made the right call, saying the Sunreavers are guiltiy of repeated times of helping the Horde commit atrocity-level crimes is wrong. How exactly was stealing the Divine Bell an atrocity-level crime? Not one person in the whole city dies.
Now you could argue they are helping Garrosh become empowered with a powerful magical artifact but frankly how is the horde to know the Alliance wouldnt use it. After all, several of their leaders actually considered it. This is why Vol'jin is opposed to having the Alliance control the Bell. At least if its in Horde hands we can be certain it won't be used against us and have the potential to control what its used for.
And what other atrocity-level crimes have they been involved in. Even then frankly we only know of a handful of its members who have.
12/19/2012 08:14 PMWhile Dalaran was ostensibly neutral, it still specifically declared a policy of helping the Alliance defend itself.
Posted by Jaelara
This always struck me as hypocritical. Its my biggest fault with Jaina. The purge might have not been neccesary if she hadn't tried to play neutral while favoring a side. Maybe if she had made it more public debate from the beginning Dalarans streets wouldn't have ended up a bloodbath.
And finally, it continues to boggle me that "kicking them out of their homes" is somehow a crime in and of itself.
Generally, when a criminal commits a crime, be it murder, treason, arson, or anything else, imprisoning or exiling that criminal is not somehow seen as depriving them of their rightful home, it's consider lawful detainment. "This is my home too" is generally not an excuse I have ever heard reasonable people accept for why someone should not be arrested for a crime, especially not for something as grievous as being an accessory to a genocidal army.
Firstly, remember that lawful and moral arent the same thing. There can be immoral and unjust laws.
Secondly, this situation here is people being targeted on very little evidance and because of their political leaning, not a crime they in particular commited.
Thirdly, many of those involved don't even know whats going on. To most its an unjust detainment and robbing carried out by a rival political faction. Its not Dalaran's police or equivelent who carry out the purge. Its a group of political activists that directly oppose the Sunreavers.
While it can be argued that Jaina's actions are lawful, the Sunreavers restiance to what is, to them, an unjust attack on their rights, is perfectly sound and in many other situations would be appluded.